== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-01-26, 26 Jan at 15:30 — 16:06 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-01-26-15.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:34.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:42.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:45.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:46.


=== FJKong_ ===
The discussion about "FJKong_" started at 15:47.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:48.


=== hikiko ===
The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:48.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:50.


=== larsu ===
The discussion about "larsu" started at 15:51.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:54.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:56.


=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:58.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 16:00.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 16:00.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 16:02.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 16:02.


=== aob ===
The discussion about "aob" started at 16:03.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (73)
 * larsu (24)
 * seb128 (21)
 * Laney (19)
 * andyrock (15)
 * Sweet5hark (13)
 * FJKong_ (8)
 * attente (8)
 * desrt (7)
 * tjaalton (7)
 * tkamppeter (6)
 * dgadomski (4)
 * davmor2 (4)
 * hikiko (3)
 * meetingology (3)
 * didrocks (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-01-26

 15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 26 15:30:34 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:30 <meetingology> 

 15:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:30 <andyrock> o/

 15:31 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks(out?), fjkong, happyaron(out), hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho(out), robert_ancell (out)

 15:31 <didrocks> willcooke: I'm in another meeting

 15:31 <larsu> \o

 15:31 <Sweet5hark> aye

 15:31 <willcooke> didrocks, ack, thanks

 15:31 <dgadomski> o/

 15:32 <Laney> u-p-s just crashed!

 15:32 <Laney> SICKENING

 15:32 <larsu> Laney: file a bug. patches welcome :P

 15:32 * larsu hides

 15:33 <Laney> larsu: you missed "works for me"

 15:33 <larsu> ah!

 15:33 <larsu> I've never seen it crash

 15:33 <larsu> you must be doing something wrong

 15:33 <larsu> what's your theme?

 15:33 <Laney> clicked the datetime indicator

 15:33 <Laney> that is not a supported usecase

 15:33 <davmor2> pebcak

 15:33 <larsu> ah, haha don't do that, of course

 15:34 <willcooke> Right. Let's whizz through this

 15:34 <willcooke> #topic andyrock

 15:34 <andyrock> hey all

 15:34 <andyrock> 1. Finished and proposed a branch for startup notifications for unity + bamf

 15:34 <andyrock> 2. Fixed a bug with dash search hint

 15:35 <andyrock> 3. Reviewed, fixed and proposed a community patch to add a "Format..." item

 15:35 <andyrock> 4. Some code reviews

 15:35 <andyrock> 5. Installed xenail (was not easy)

 15:36 <seb128> what issue did you hit installing xenial?

 15:36 <andyrock> 6. Started to take a look to changes that must be done in unity* for gnome-software transition

 15:36 <andyrock> \eof

 15:36 <andyrock> seb128: I had to blacklist nouveau

 15:36 <andyrock> it's segfaulting here

 15:36 <andyrock> even on a live

 15:36 <seb128> :-/

 15:36 <Laney> who knows nouveau?

 15:36 <Laney> robert?

 15:37 <seb128> I doubt he does

 15:37 <willcooke> maybe tjaalton has some ideas?

 15:37 <seb128> I don't think we have much expertize at Canonical for that

 15:37 <seb128> or in the ubuntu-x community

 15:37 * larsu sings the song of only using intel graphics with linux

 15:38 * desrt joins in for the chorus

 15:38 <andyrock> :D

 15:38 <tjaalton> could be a mesa bug

 15:38 <tjaalton> or kernel

 15:38 <Laney> haha

 15:38 * larsu sings louder

 15:38 <desrt> hells ya, life is good... they opened up the drivers like everyone should!

 15:38 <larsu> TO MAKE MY POINT CLEARER

 15:38 <tjaalton> 4.4 isn't in xenial yet

 15:39 <larsu> desrt: haha!

 15:39 <tjaalton> intel regresses all the time, consider yourselves lucky then :)

 15:39 <willcooke> davmor2, do you have a machine with nvidia gfx?

 15:39 <tjaalton> andyrock: test 4.4 from proposed, or mainline

 15:39 <davmor2> willcooke: I do

 15:39 <andyrock> I'll do that thanks

 15:40 <andyrock> for the moment blacklisting it it's enough for me

 15:40 <tjaalton> sure

 15:40 <willcooke> davmor2, can you see if it's broken for you as well?

 15:40 <willcooke> thanks for the pointers tjaalton

 15:41 <tjaalton> I doubt nouveau is generally broken, but on some hw

 15:41 <willcooke> oki, would be good to see if we can narrow it down at all

 15:41 <willcooke> alright, thanks andyrock.  Lets see if the newer versions are any better

 15:42 <willcooke> #topic attente

 15:43 <attente> apparmor dconf revisions, submitted again to the apparmor ML...

 15:43 <attente> revisions and discussions with upstream about the gtk popup menu branch

 15:43 <attente> discussions with mir team at sprint about menu surface api, clipboard support, keymap support, multi-surface in u8

 15:43 <attente> fix gtk-mir breakage that happened after the port to GdkSeat api

 15:43 <attente> switching over to gnome-software for a bit, some basic ubuntu-sso integration with ubuntu-sso-client, but need to re-write this

 15:43 <attente> (eof)

 15:43 <willcooke> great stuff, thanks attente

 15:43 <Laney> sprint report please!

 15:44 <desrt> ((sorry -- i didn't prepare notes.. i just got to the hotel and am very jetlagged))

 15:44 <larsu> attente: I hope we are getting PRIMARY selection as well!!!!!1!

 15:44 <willcooke> attente, you could pretty much copy & paste our conversation from yesterday

 15:44 <attente> true, let me find that

 15:45 <willcooke> attente, can you email it round?

 15:45 <willcooke> once you've edited as needed etc

 15:45 <davmor2> willcooke: sorry for what 16.04 or 14.04.4

 15:45 <willcooke> davmor2, 16.04

 15:45 <attente> yeah, i'll email it around instead

 15:45 <willcooke> thx

 15:45 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:45 <desrt> ((sorry -- i didn't prepare notes.. i just got to the hotel and am very jetlagged))

 15:45 <davmor2> willcooke: will do give me 20 minutes or so

 15:45 <willcooke> davmor2, no immediate hurry

 15:45 <desrt> but this week larsu and i will be sprinting with gnome

 15:46 <desrt> and fosdem this weekend

 15:46 <desrt> hope to see you all there :)

 15:46 <willcooke> have fun desrt

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski

 15:46 <dgadomski> hey, still no new desktop issues were reported to me

 15:47 <willcooke> yay!

 15:47 <dgadomski> :)

 15:47 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski

 15:47 <dgadomski> thanks

 15:47 <willcooke> #topic FJKong_

 15:47 <FJKong_> * bug#1534492 Can't use fcitx for Chinese with QtCreator

 15:47 <FJKong_> fixed,waiting for update

 15:47 <FJKong_> * tracking bug:

 15:47 <FJKong_> can't use IM in one of screen of dual-monitor.

 15:47 <FJKong_> need more infomation

 15:47 <FJKong_> * input method doesn't work after upgrade

 15:47 <FJKong_> should be wrong skin problem, still in progress

 15:47 <FJKong_> eof

 15:48 <willcooke> great, thanks FJKong_

 15:48 <willcooke> #topic happyaron

 15:48 <willcooke> 1. Worked on crash debugging of a sogou crash, handed to Fanjun for after that

 15:48 <willcooke> 2. Worked on ibus 1.5.12's unexpected ABI incompatibility

 15:48 <willcooke> 3. SRUs for ubuntukylin were deferred a bit (now it is the on the top

 15:48 <willcooke> of my list)

 15:48 <willcooke> 4. Day to day use of new fonts-noto-cjk configuration for several days

 15:48 <willcooke> and looks all good for upload

 15:48 <willcooke> #topic hikiko

 15:49 <hikiko> I'm very close to fix the last bugs on shadows. I changed the code to use the existing unity shadow windows and pixmaps instead of quads that had a texture with the shape and this has fixed all the artifacts I had due to the wrong window placement on unity (when I use unity windows compiz can draw them in order even when they are not but this doesn't apply to quads), the problem I have atm is a small bug on rendering: I have a quad with the

 15:49 <hikiko> shadow texture which I can verify is correct in size, color and alpha because I can store its texture as png image on my disc (screenshot here: https://i.imgur.com/ZoSQqtR.png?1 the cairo.png) but it doesn't appear at all when I draw it on the unity window (black quad around the shaped window in the screenshot), I intend to fix that by tomorrow and do the MP. If I find some time @the future I;ll try to debug the unity windows ordering and

 15:49 <hikiko> make a proper fix because we might need to add other features in the future. eof

 15:50 <willcooke> thanks hikiko

 15:50 <willcooke> will be good to put this one to bed :)

 15:50 <willcooke> #topic Laney

 15:50 <Laney> • Poked at gnome-software not making use of available appstream metadata, turned out to be a bug in my script :$

 15:50 <Laney> • Spent a lot of time (again) fixing test regressions to get glib2.0 in - all outstanding ones fixed (sphinx, autopilot, ubuntu-sso-client, others) besides udisks2/ppc64el which was overridden :(

 15:50 <Laney> • patch piloted :D

 15:50 <Laney> • uploaded u-s-d u-c-c ubuntu-themes to fix random things - had to revert part of u-s-d (from attente) since it seemed to break some keyboard shortcuts for me, sorry! :'(

 15:50 <Laney> • fixed broken sessioninstaller :/

 15:50 <Laney> • poked at some MIRs, libgcab pyotherside :)

 15:50 <Laney> • set up a local appstream extractor deployment in prep for the sprint :o

 15:50 <Laney> ☸

 15:51 <willcooke> awesome, thanks a lot Laney

 15:51 <willcooke> #topic larsu

 15:52 * Laney just saw apt downloading at 3,001 PB/s

 15:52 <larsu> hey! The main two things for me this week were: adding an index to the geonames db, so that it can have multiple known names for a city

 15:52 <larsu> think London/Londres

 15:52 <larsu> or Munich/München

 15:52 <larsu> I decided against limiting this to the current locale - to complex and not worth it for the amount of data we have

 15:53 <larsu> the other one is playing with the completion window again to make it flicker less

 15:53 <larsu> otherwise same as desrt: going to a hackfest tomorrow (but continue working on this for the most part) and fosdem + mini sprint with Laney after

 15:53 <larsu> </larsu>

 15:53 <willcooke> thanks larsu, happy trails

 15:54 <larsu> thanks :)

 15:54 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:55 <willcooke> humm, he was here a minute a go

 15:55 <willcooke> we'll come back, because I know he's got a question

 15:56 <willcooke> #topic seb128

 15:56 <seb128> * travelled to UbuCon/Scale

 15:56 <seb128> </week>

 15:56 <willcooke> :) thanks seb128

 15:56 <seb128> yw!

 15:56 <larsu> haha

 15:56 <larsu> nice one

 15:56 <Laney> trip report please!

 15:56 <seb128> lol

 15:56 <Sweet5hark> hrhr

 15:56 <willcooke> qengho, are you back?

 15:57 <seb128> Laney, I didn't really took note, was more a "meet people & talk with them" than formal presentations

 15:57 <seb128> qengho is having issues with meetings

 15:58 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:58 <seb128> well at least he didn't paste his report when it was my turn this time :p

 15:58 <Sweet5hark> - 5.1.0~rc2 is in the ppa, looks good enough to me to be a initial xenial upload

 15:58 <Sweet5hark> - work on snappy:

 15:58 <Sweet5hark> -- got a build to succeed reliably from scratch (hackish though)

 15:58 <Sweet5hark> -- trying to play with the resulting .snap

 15:58 <Sweet5hark> -- threw away my old manual VirtualBox VM to use vagrant proper for that

 15:58 <Sweet5hark> -- couldnt get snappy running in vagrant so far (image seems to loop right in booting the kernel)

 15:58 <Sweet5hark> - really need to get slides for FOSDEM in shape

 15:58 <Sweet5hark> EOF

 15:58 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark

 15:58 <seb128> Sweet5hark, great, let me know when you need sponsoring ... and how is your DMB application going?

 15:58 <Sweet5hark> seb128: urgh

 15:59 <willcooke> Sweet5hark, if you are stuck on snappy let me know and I can help find someone to unblock you

 15:59 <Sweet5hark> seb128: how is the DMB application to trip report exchange rate?

 15:59 <seb128> Sweet5hark, oh, indeed, don't forget to make a trip report after fosdem ;-)

 16:00 <willcooke> lots of trip reports to read next week then

 16:00 <Sweet5hark> seb128: yeah

 16:00 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso

 16:00 <willcooke> * Prepared pulse 8 for upload to Xenial... Just waiting on the Debian maintainer to upload to experimental, so I can treat it as a merge, should be within a day or so.

 16:00 <willcooke> * Made changes to the Orca gsettings backend, splitting out some settings a little bit, and adding some descriptions to some settings. Awaiting a response from upstream.

 16:00 <willcooke> * The a11y profile manager library is functionally complete, now to right a command-line tool to work with it, and the integration code.

 16:00 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 16:01 <tkamppeter> - Phone: Printing with on-demand call of avahi-daemon, cupsd, and cups-browsed finally works, including the shutdown of the daemons, finally works now.

 16:01 <tkamppeter> - Phone: Wrote a script to demonstrate how the print dialog on the phone is supposed to work.

 16:01 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Released 1.8.0 and 1.8.1, cleaning up the COPYING file and the copyright headers of the CUPS-inherited source files, making the Braille printing support work with only dependencies from Ubuntu Main. do not disable queues when avahi-daemon goes away.

 16:01 <tkamppeter> - Uploaded updated cupd-filters to unblock build of CUPS.

 16:01 <tkamppeter> - Talked with a volunteer contributor on IRC who wants to add AirPrint (as a client) support to cups-filters and HTTP scanning support to SANE.

 16:01 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.

 16:01 <willcooke> awesome, thanks tkamppeter

 16:01 <willcooke> looking forward to seeing people printing from Ubuphones soon

 16:02 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 16:02 <willcooke> - GNOME Software review feature

 16:02 <willcooke> - LightDM 1.16.7, 1.17.4 released

 16:02 <willcooke> - MIRs for GNOME Software

 16:02 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 16:02 <willcooke> are you back online qengho ?

 16:02 <willcooke> guess not

 16:03 <seb128> :-/

 16:03 <willcooke> #topic aob

 16:03 <willcooke> Safe and fun travels to all going to FOSDEM etc

 16:03 <willcooke> once you're back please get started on sprint travel if you havent already

 16:03 <willcooke> also please think about confs for the next year and fill in the confs sheet

 16:04 <willcooke> anyone else got anything to share?

 16:04 <seb128> no

 16:04 <larsu> seb128: how do you know?

 16:05 <seb128> larsu, know that?

 16:05 <seb128> by "no" I meant "not me"

 16:05 <seb128> if that's what you mean

 16:05 <seb128> and I know that I don't have anything else to share because I know myself? :p

 16:05 <willcooke> alright, lets wrap

 16:05 <willcooke> thanks all

 16:06 <seb128> thanks!

 16:06 <willcooke> qengho, if you drop back in let me know

 16:06 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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