== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-01-12, 12 Jan at 15:30 — 16:01 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-01-12-15.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:33.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:34.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:35.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:36.


=== didrocks ===
The discussion about "didrocks" started at 15:37.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:38.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:39.


=== hikiko ===
The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:41.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:44.


=== larsu ===
The discussion about "larsu" started at 15:45.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:49.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:52.


=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:55.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:55.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:56.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:56.


=== willcooke ===
The discussion about "willcooke" started at 15:57.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (62)
 * didrocks (16)
 * larsu (16)
 * Laney (15)
 * seb128 (14)
 * desrt (11)
 * FJKong (6)
 * dgadomski (5)
 * Sweet5hark (4)
 * andyrock (4)
 * attente (4)
 * hikiko (3)
 * qengho2 (3)
 * meetingology (3)
 * ubot5 (2)
 * Trevinho (2)
 * qengho (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-01-12

 15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 12 15:30:38 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:30 <meetingology> 

 15:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:31 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 15:31 <seb128> o/

 15:31 <desrt> hihi

 15:31 <andyrock> o/

 15:31 <dgadomski> o/

 15:31 <didrocks> hey!

 15:31 <FJKong> hi

 15:32 <larsu> hey

 15:32 <Sweet5hark> hi

 15:33 <willcooke> let's get started then

 15:33 <willcooke> #topic andyrock

 15:33 <andyrock> I've been working on the startup notification branch for bamf and unity

 15:33 <andyrock> now that Trevinho is back and I can use his knowledge should be easy to finish the branch

 15:34 <andyrock> \eof

 15:34 <willcooke> thanks andyrock

 15:34 <willcooke> #topic attente

 15:34 <attente> hi all

 15:34 <attente> finished gtk popup menu revisions, but won't be merged upstream until a working wayland implementation also exists

 15:34 <attente> currently making some final apparmor dconf revisions...

 15:34 <attente> (eof)

 15:35 <willcooke> thanks attente, happy travels for next week

 15:35 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:35 <desrt> hey

 15:36 <desrt> ended up spinning my wheels a lot this week and didn't get a whole lot done, unfortunately

 15:36 <desrt> eof.

 15:36 <willcooke> thanks desrt

 15:36 <willcooke> hope you get traction ;)

 15:36 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski

 15:36 <dgadomski> hey, just a single thing today:

 15:36 <dgadomski> * testing -proposed packages fixing bug #1337873 on Trusty, Wily, apparently there was a regression on armhf so I have prepared new debdiffs with pitti's fix

 15:36 <ubot5> bug 1337873 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Wily) "ifupdown initialization problems caused by race condition" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337873

 15:36 <dgadomski> EOF

 15:37 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski

 15:37 <dgadomski> thanks

 15:37 <willcooke> #topic didrocks

 15:37 <didrocks> hey

 15:37 <didrocks> Ubuntu Make:

 15:37 <didrocks> - Releasing Ubuntu Make 16.01 bringing some new features from below and previous weeks. https://plus.google.com/+DidierRoche/posts/d7CcoGrvUnX!

 15:37 <didrocks> - Reviewing and helping on two pull requests that are now merged in from a new contributor. We always get latest Unity3D beta version (with some flexible parsing as they change their formats regularly) and also latest Eclipse! Welcome to eclipse java Mars instead of Luna! Adapt tests to always fetch latest and greatest as well on those 2 frameworks (which were the only ones where we had to hardcode

 15:37 <didrocks> specific version previously).

 15:37 <didrocks> - Making some fixes and helping on another review for Swift support. Blocked right now on a gpg import key issues when euid != uid (it's a gpg protection), but that doesn't help when needing sudo.

 15:37 <didrocks> - Continue on working on the autopkgtests infrastructure (ensure system tests are running as expected) and doing first test runs. medium and large tests are not passing on the official infra (under debugging). Adding wrapper to it, exposing new attributes (ppa, vcs branches) to run-autopktests archive admin and release manager tools.

 15:37 <didrocks> - Rework foreign architecture addition and detection to ensure we only call it once (we were calling them once per package previously), fix some races. Move this facility to tools and restructure tests for this.

 15:37 <didrocks> - Add locks to avoid a race condition when creating temp file (to not create them as root) and add a new contextwrapper for as_root() with its tests.

 15:37 <didrocks> - Drop sshpass in favor of ssh key for docker image connection

 15:37 <didrocks> - A lot of smaller fixes for more test robustness, restructuration, env leaking (check for https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-make/commit/e2f0cb2b31959c4f7d67fb76d1e1de4a9639cf1a for details)

 15:37 <didrocks> Misc:

 15:37 <didrocks> - fix lubuntu plymouth theme upgrade bug (wily -> xenial). Fix their postrm to ensure we don't trigger this issue (present for years in the packaging) in the future.

 15:37 <didrocks> - google code in: review a --list and --list-installed PR on Ubuntu Make (the student will pause for 2 weeks though) + desktop file for logout/shutdown/reboot. both still in progress. Another one on format option in unity (pushed to andyrock as he needs some guidance)

 15:37 <didrocks> .

 15:38 <willcooke> thanks didrocks

 15:38 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:38 <FJKong> Sogou IM update:

 15:38 <FJKong> 1 research on testing code on extrace each frame and time from file

 15:38 <FJKong> 2 research support input emoji symble

 15:38 <FJKong> eof

 15:38 <willcooke> thanks FJKong

 15:38 <FJKong> extract..

 15:39 <willcooke> #topic happyaron

 15:40 <willcooke> probably out....

 15:41 <willcooke> happyaron, please let me have your update via email when you're online

 15:41 <willcooke> #topic hikiko

 15:41 <hikiko> there's an issue with the size of the shadow and I am trying to figure out how to get the correct size accounting for borders or decorations, otherwise it works it's just smaller than it should be... apart from that did some support here and there, look at the chrome vsync bug etc

 15:42 <hikiko> eof

 15:42 <willcooke> thanks hikiko, do you think we're good to start asking people to test qengho's suggested string?  Just some general feedback about whether or not it makes a difference for people?

 15:44 <hikiko> yes willcooke

 15:44 <willcooke> cool, I'll do that this afternoon

 15:44 <willcooke> thanks hikiko

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic Laney

 15:45 <Laney> hello

 15:45 <Laney> • Uploaded gstreamer 1.7 to X, required getting an upstream fix

 15:45 <Laney> ∘ still a 1.6 point release to upload to 15.10

 15:45 <Laney> • finished seeding gnome-calendar

 15:45 <Laney> • ported some more stuff (ubiquity, webapps-applications, other things),  to webkit2, should be able to get webkit1 out of main

 15:45 <Laney> • fixed virt-manager breakage in X

 15:45 <Laney> • started poking at tracker autopkgtests on s390x

 15:45 <Laney> • looked at some of my merges

 15:45 <Laney> • went to the CC meeting to represent the team

 15:45 <Laney> ♟

 15:45 <larsu> is that pile of poo or is my text too small?

 15:45 <willcooke> awesome, thanks Laney

 15:45 * larsu zooms

 15:45 <willcooke> ha

 15:45 <willcooke> #topic larsu

 15:46 <Laney> it's a pawn

 15:46 <Laney> like me

 15:46 <larsu> have been working on nautilus (after some half sick days last week)

 15:46 * Laney advances one square towards larsu

 15:46 <larsu> desrt disliked my gtk patch though (for good reason), so I've been looking for a way out that is not too hacky

 15:47 <larsu> haven't found one yet :/

 15:47 <desrt> i have a proposal =)

 15:47 <larsu> the way nautilus code got refactored really doesn't work well with how menus are exported on the bus

 15:47 <seb128> Laney, speaking of gstreamer, you probably know but tracker s390 autopkg is grumpy and blocking it, that seems buggy though (it blocks gnome-icon-theme the same way) and might be worth doing a skip or something

 15:48 <larsu> desrt: stop doing it?

 15:48 <Laney> I know

 15:48 <larsu> 3.14 is really old...

 15:48 <desrt> larsu: do it how we originally discussed in london, or ya... stop doing it entirely

 15:48 <Laney> 12/01 15:45:01 <Laney> • started poking at tracker autopkgtests on s390x

 15:48 <seb128> great

 15:48 <desrt> but fwiw, i don't think the changes i proposed would end up introducing a huge changeset in nautilus

 15:48 <larsu> desrt: in nautiulus?

 15:48 <desrt> but the changes to gtk would indeed be fairly substantial

 15:48 <larsu> desrt: there I can only re-export actions

 15:49 <larsu> in the same namespace

 15:49 <desrt> larsu: let's discuss this one more time after the meeting

 15:49 <larsu> anyway, let's not discuss this in the meteting

 15:49 <larsu> </larsu>

 15:49 <willcooke> :)

 15:49 <willcooke> thanks chaps

 15:49 <desrt> larsu: but i think if we can't figure out how to do it along these lines, you need to put it down

 15:49 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:52 <willcooke> laggy laggy?

 15:52 <willcooke> he was here a little while ago

 15:52 <seb128> I've seen that before

 15:52 <desrt> ya.  he was having trouble last meeting as well

 15:52 <willcooke> #topic seb128

 15:52 <qengho2> - done: chromium up to date. in Proposed. - done: Cr+fcitx apparmor updates for #security. - to-do: snappy packaging for chromium - need: sponsorship for xenial xdg-utils. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1518053

 15:52 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1518053 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "xdg-mime can read .config/ defaults but can never set them" [Medium,Confirmed]

 15:52 <willcooke> doh

 15:53 <seb128> lol, that as well

 15:53 <willcooke> qengho2, carry on if needed...

 15:53 <seb128> (/me waits for qengho to be done)

 15:54 <qengho2> I'm giving up smuxi. It is broken on large networks like freenode.

 15:54 <qengho2> EOF

 15:54 <willcooke> thanks qengho2

 15:54 <willcooke> seb128, all yours

 15:54 <seb128> * spent most of the week trying to get on top of xenial work (launchpad bugs, e.u.c, versions, ...)

 15:54 <seb128> * some Debian merges

 15:54 <seb128> * some small updates

 15:54 <seb128> </week>

 15:54 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 15:55 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:55 <Sweet5hark> - returned from vacation, burning through ~3000 mail backlog

 15:55 <Sweet5hark> - bumped LibreOffice to 5.1.0~rc1 for ppa including l10n in the ppa

 15:55 <Sweet5hark> EOF

 15:55 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark

 15:55 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso

 15:55 <willcooke> * Uploaded merge of Brltty from debian, accidentally breaking the systemd service file, which was promptly fixed, thanks rtg.

 15:55 <willcooke> * Further work on liba11y-profile-manager. Coding is well under way, and I've almost finalized the API, and it will e documented as its developed, allowing for changes as I progress where required, or where I've overlooked something.

 15:56 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 15:56 <willcooke> Looks like Till is offline, I will come back if he appears...

 15:56 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho

 15:56 <Trevinho> Nothing to report, a part from the fact I'm back

 15:56 <willcooke> :D

 15:56 <willcooke> Trevinho, what do you think for a sprint review?  Friday better than tomorrow?  I think yes

 15:57 <Trevinho> willcooke: I agree

 15:57 <willcooke> cool, that's done then

 15:57 <willcooke> will send out invites

 15:57 <willcooke> andyrock, let me know how you are fixed for a meeting on Friday

 15:57 <willcooke> #topic willcooke

 15:57 <willcooke> Oh, no update from Robert, but I spoke to him yesterday

 15:58 <seb128> it starts feeling late for the software-center replacement ...

 15:58 <willcooke> he's been working on GNOME software and has branches which can get reviews and comments from LP

 15:58 <willcooke> seb128, Let's see what we find out in the meeting tomorrow.  I think we still need to push hard for it

 15:59 <qengho> I'm oddly happy that "perl" was not installed on my main machine until just now as a dep for "irssi".

 15:59 <willcooke> it = G-Software

 15:59 <seb128> yeah

 15:59 <seb128> I'm also starting worring a bit about nautilus

 15:59 <seb128> I'm unsure the new version is good enough for the LTS/not going to been as a regression

 16:00 <willcooke> yes, thats sounding like it's not going as smoothly as expected.

 16:00 <willcooke> let's discuss after the meeting

 16:00 <willcooke> Reminder to all desktoppers:  please fill out the conferences spreadsheet

 16:00 <larsu> seb128: what does the new version give us, other than being new?

 16:00 <larsu> ah wait. after the meeting.

 16:00 <willcooke> thx

 16:01 <willcooke> oki, no Till so let's wrap and continue the Nautilus conversation

 16:01 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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