== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Weekly Desktop Team Meeting - 2015-11-03, 03 Nov at 15:30 — 15:50 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-11-03-15.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== AndrewMC ===
The discussion about "AndrewMC" started at 15:31.


=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:31.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:31.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:32.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:33.


=== didrocks ===
The discussion about "didrocks" started at 15:35.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:37.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:38.


=== hikiko ===
The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:38.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:39.


=== larsu ===
The discussion about "larsu" started at 15:40.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:40.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:41.


=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:41.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:42.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:43.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:43.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:45.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:45.


=== Any Other Business ===
The discussion about "Any Other Business" started at 15:46.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:49.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (81)
 * didrocks (23)
 * Sweet5hark (18)
 * larsu (13)
 * Trevinho (11)
 * seb128 (11)
 * Laney (9)
 * FJKong (8)
 * attente (7)
 * dgadomski (6)
 * ubot5 (5)
 * qengho (5)
 * desrt (5)
 * meetingology (3)
 * hikiko (2)



== Full Log ==


 15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Weekly Desktop Team Meeting - 2015-11-03

 15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov  3 15:30:03 2015 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:30 <meetingology> 

 15:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:30 <willcooke> Got a UOS session starting in 30 mins so need to be quick today

 15:30 <desrt> o/

 15:30 <willcooke> Roll call:

 15:30 <larsu> \o

 15:30 <willcooke> andyrock (out), attente, desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong,

 15:30 <willcooke> happyaron (out), hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out),

 15:30 <willcooke> tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 15:30 <hikiko> hello

 15:30 <seb128> hey!

 15:30 <larsu> ah, too quick :)

 15:30 <Sweet5hark> heya

 15:30 <attente> hey

 15:30 <qengho> Oh dang.

 15:31 <didrocks> hey

 15:31 <willcooke> #topic AndrewMC

 15:31 <willcooke> oops

 15:31 <willcooke> #topic andyrock

 15:31 <willcooke> * investigating on lockscreen regression  reported  by Pat. I built a PPA with a possibile fix but  Looks like it does not  work. I ll need to  build another PPA adding debug strings and ask Pat to  send us the logs.

 15:31 <willcooke> * Trevi�o's reviews

 15:31 <willcooke> sorry AndrewMC - ignore

 15:31 <willcooke> #topic attente

 15:31 * willcooke needs to slow down on the auto-complete

 15:31 <attente> fixed touch input with gtk-mir on the phone, still need to hash out a "single-surface mode" for gtk to actually be usable on the phone

 15:31 <attente> fought with qmake to add gdbus bindings to maliit-framework upstream

 15:31 <attente> porting maliit-inputcontext-gtk from dbus-glib to gdbus, will package it once done. or might give up and just package it as is anyways

 15:31 <attente> followed up with security team about dconf apparmor confinement, they're probably too busy for it this cycle

 15:31 <attente> (eof)

 15:31 <larsu> vi

 15:32 <larsu> (sorry)

 15:32 <willcooke> thanks attente!

 15:32 <attente> ls

 15:32 <desrt> attente: thanks for poking about the apparmor stuff again

 15:32 <desrt> cd

 15:32 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:32 <desrt> let's just say "bugs" and move on

 15:32 <desrt> (in the interest of speedy meeting)

 15:33 <willcooke> right so

 15:33 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski

 15:33 <dgadomski> hey

 15:33 <dgadomski> * testing fix for bug #1510824 - waiting for feedback to confirm it's working

 15:33 <ubot5> bug 1510824 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu Wily) "PolkitAgentSession ignores multiline output (with pam_vas)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510824

 15:33 <dgadomski> * investigating a problem with large number of defunct processes from a respawning daemon (may be related to bug #406397, bug #530779), trying to reproduce it

 15:33 <ubot5> bug 406397 in upstart "init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406397

 15:33 <ubot5> bug 530779 in upstart "init: does not wait for parent to exit when following forks" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/530779

 15:33 <dgadomski> * got positive feedback from independent sources about the fix to bug #1337873, waiting for SRU

 15:33 <ubot5> bug 1337873 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "Precise, Trusty, Utopic - ifupdown initialization problems caused by race condition" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337873

 15:33 <dgadomski> * I think polkit debugging is not documented well enough (setting POLKIT_DEBUG, G_DEBUG_MESSAGES for polkitd and polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1, do you have an idea what would be the best place to have it documented

 15:35 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski

 15:35 <dgadomski> thanks

 15:35 <willcooke> #topic didrocks

 15:35 <didrocks> Ubuntu Make:

 15:35 <didrocks> - a lot of PR reviews and tutoring (netbeans, rust). Another new contributor is on the pipe with CLion support!

 15:35 <didrocks> - merged 2 external contributors pull requests (better env variable for android NDK, better user prompting for restarting shell session).

 15:35 <didrocks> - medium tests now run in our jenkins infra! Did a lot of work/testing roundtrips to enable this both on master and system versions (had to change some stuff so that system version can run in the container with a real file system layout): https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/udtc-trusty-tests/2192/testReport/. Now at 828 tests running \o/

 15:35 <didrocks> - add --remove as a global option in addition to a framework one (so umake --remove <category> <framework> works as well as umake <category> <framework> --remove).

 15:35 <didrocks> - add --version support returning current ubuntu make version (different versioning scheme if released, if from branch, if from branch + dirty content, if from branch without git installed…) + backed by tests.

 15:35 <didrocks> - ensure decompressor and download manager handle both well multiple decompressions/downloads in parallel with the BaseInstaller framework (will be used for Twine). Add more unit and large tests to cover those cases as well.

 15:35 <didrocks> - enable as well direct asset download filtering in BaseInstaller without decompressing (same, will be used for Twine).

 15:35 <didrocks> - enable for medium test framework to serve the fake assets on multiple ports and hostnames inside the containers. Adapt tests framework to this new API.

 15:35 <didrocks> - misc smaller fixes like more robust medium tests execution, parallel download progress total size reconciliation, zsh env variable removal, variable refactoring… + back them up with tests of course.

 15:35 <didrocks> - bugs/feature requests/user questions handling.

 15:35 <didrocks> Misc:

 15:35 <didrocks> - some NEWing and AA duties.

 15:35 <didrocks> .

 15:36 <willcooke> didrocks, thanks - whose are the Jenkins servers?

 15:36 <willcooke> who is admining them?

 15:36 <didrocks> willcooke: the CI team

 15:36 <willcooke> nice

 15:36 <willcooke> that's great

 15:36 <didrocks> however, I have admin rights on it

 15:36 <willcooke> :)

 15:36 <didrocks> and so, creating/handing my jobs

 15:37 <didrocks> (just not messing with their :p)

 15:37 <willcooke> nice, thanks for sorting that

 15:37 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:38 <willcooke> #topic happyaron

 15:38 <willcooke> 1. Released fix for a crash in sogoupinyin.

 15:38 <willcooke> 2. Following the cn.archive.ubuntu.com issue with Aliyun and NEU.

 15:38 <willcooke> 3. ZFS package improvements.

 15:38 <willcooke> #topic hikiko

 15:38 <hikiko> hi! 1- shadows for shaped and multi-rect windows proof of concept  lp:xgetshape and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYeFN0vOG_M 2- I am looking at the decorations code to do a similar trick inside unity  3- still searching the phantom-bugs that block the ezoom development :D (eof)

 15:39 <willcooke> thanks hikiko

 15:39 <willcooke> #topic Laney

 15:39 <Laney> • Short week because I was on hols

 15:39 <Laney> • before that I went to the release sprint - helped test images, fix various bugs (mainly installer), and decide what we should let in and what not

 15:39 <Laney> • Fixed nautilus smb crash, SRUed it too

 15:39 <Laney> • Push at a big GNOME transition ball this week, some no-change rebuilds and some real fixes

 15:39 <Laney> • Fix/retry many autopkgtests to try to get things migrating (gtk, glib, the previous transition)

 15:39 <Laney> • shepherding some train things

 15:39 <Laney> • worked a bit on gtk 3.18, in the desktop ppa, please test (soon to be uploaded to X)

 15:39 <Laney> • chats about font

 15:39 <Laney> ☙

 15:39 <willcooke> thanks Laney

 15:40 <willcooke> #topic larsu

 15:40 <larsu> more bug fixes this week:

 15:40 <larsu> - nautilus desktop rendering hidpi problems

 15:40 <larsu> - gsettings-qt needed yet another workaround for that qt eventloop bug

 15:40 <larsu> - accountsservice log spam: got a glib patch, but there's some discussion about whether we should change the dbus spec as well (thanks desrt for helping out)

 15:40 <larsu> - finished up and pushed that patch that makes glib not crash when using gactiongroup from python (after code review)

 15:40 <larsu> - in progress: notify-osd bubbles stay large after toggling large-text back and forth

 15:40 <larsu> I think that's it... I can never remember everything when doing bug work

 15:40 <willcooke> :)

 15:40 <willcooke> thanks larsu

 15:40 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:41 <qengho> - some mir-ozone-chromium catch up.

 15:41 <qengho> - more translations work. the GRD+XTB<-->POT+PO pump had more missing features than I remembered.

 15:41 <qengho> - default-browser bug still needs testing on xfce, kde, etc. My upstream bug fix still not merged. :(

 15:41 <qengho> EOF

 15:41 <willcooke> thanks qengho

 15:41 <willcooke> #topic seb128

 15:41 <seb128> • backported gtk fixed for nautilus segfault issue and gnome-screenshot quality issues on hidpi

 15:41 <seb128> • helped larsu to test nautilus hidpi/scaling fixes

 15:41 <seb128> • lot of Debian merges and updates

 15:41 <seb128> • worked on some of the ongoing xenial transitions (e-d-s, cheese, libgtop, libgnomecanvasmm, poppler)

 15:41 <seb128> • reviewed incoming bugs and e.u.c report to ensure we don't have big issues in wily

 15:41 <seb128> • test gtk 3.18 candidate update, seems mostly working fine (though one annoying issue with bg color on loading)

 15:41 <seb128> </week>

 15:41 <larsu> seb128: thanks again for that :)

 15:41 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 15:41 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:41 <larsu> (and being patient)

 15:42 <seb128> larsu, yw, thanks for the fixes!

 15:42 <Sweet5hark> - updated to 5.0.3 wily in the ppa

 15:42 <Sweet5hark> - updated to 4.4.6 vivid in the ppa

 15:42 <Sweet5hark> - some upstream work on clang service name matching

 15:42 <Sweet5hark> - added scrollwheel navigation to TabBar of LibreOffice Sidebar upstream

 15:42 <Sweet5hark> - some upstream code review

 15:42 <Sweet5hark> - helped getting libreoffice git repos live mirrored on launchpad via gerrit replication

 15:42 <Sweet5hark> - created git repo for libreoffice packaging on launchpad

 15:42 <Sweet5hark> - updating libreoffice vanilla/minimal as a base for snap/click to 5.0.3 (ongoing)

 15:42 <Sweet5hark> -- there seems to be a race condition on parallel builds :-/

 15:42 <Sweet5hark> - various coordination on UX wrt. sidebar and themes

 15:42 <Sweet5hark> - some review of replies to ongoing tenders/job offers by TDF

 15:42 <Sweet5hark> EOF

 15:42 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark

 15:42 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso

 15:42 <willcooke> * Almost completed Orca gsettings backend work, found a few issues due to me not reading deeply enough into how Orca handles some internal settings, hoefully will have something by the end of the week.

 15:42 <willcooke> * Uploaded PulseAudio 7.1 to Xenial.

 15:42 <willcooke> * Further mapping out of the accessibility profile code/API.

 15:43 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 15:43 <willcooke> - cups-filters: Released 1.1.0 which allows to define default option settings for new cups-browsed-generated print queues in cups-browsed.conf, cups-browsed remembering option setting changes when a remote printer disappears and re-appears, IP-based URIs for generated queues (for the phone), configurable load balancing, and bug fixes in cups-browsed and foomatic-rip.

 15:43 <willcooke> - pysmbc: Replaced former python-smbc source package by Debian's pysmbc package so that we can sync from Debian here.

 15:43 <willcooke> - cups-filters: Started studying viability of a rastertoxps filter to support XPS-only printers.

 15:43 <willcooke> - Reported bug (bug 1509423) about the problem of cupsd not being able to start its sub-processes, no answer after one week.

 15:43 <ubot5> bug 1509423 in cups (Ubuntu) "cupsd on the phone is unable to run sub processes, they all cause "Command not found"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509423

 15:43 <willcooke> - Bugs.

 15:43 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho

 15:44 <seb128> Sweet5hark, should we get  5.0.3 in xenial?

 15:44 <FJKong> willcooke: ping

 15:44 <FJKong> sorry late

 15:44 <willcooke> nw FJKong - will come back to you in a mo

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> seb128: I wouldnt bother TBH.

 15:45 <seb128> k

 15:45 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 15:45 <willcooke> - Xenial package updates

 15:45 <willcooke> - Packge syncs with Debian

 15:45 <willcooke> - LightDM bugfixes

 15:45 <willcooke> - LightDM 1.17.1, 1.6.5, 1.14.3 releases

 15:45 <willcooke> - LightDM stable release updates

 15:45 <willcooke> - XMir testing / package updating

 15:45 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:46 <FJKong> Sogou IM

 15:46 <FJKong> * check with new bug of skin problem, not produce yet

 15:46 <FJKong> * continue on new feature of animate skin

 15:46 <FJKong> pinyin search:

 15:46 <FJKong> find some GUI tool to add task, make it more easy

 15:46 <FJKong> that's all

 15:46 <willcooke> thanks FJKong

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic Any Other Business

 15:46 <willcooke> Obviously, UOS this week

 15:46 <Sweet5hark> seb128: there is already an 5.1.0~alpha1 tagged upstream. Having that for xenial in the prereleases ppa would be priority before any 5.0/xenial updates. Dint have that yet.

 15:47 <willcooke> Other news:  Have started the ball rolling on a sprint in April

 15:47 <Sweet5hark> \o/

 15:47 <willcooke> Back to UOS news:

 15:47 <willcooke> In 13 mins there is a QA session for desktop

 15:47 <willcooke> If you want to get involved in that session please come along

 15:48 <didrocks> time to ask embarassing questions on IRC to willcooke then :)

 15:48 <willcooke> :)

 15:48 <willcooke> Also check the schedule for other desktop sessions this week

 15:48 <willcooke> Anyone got anything else?  If not I will go and finish getting the Hangout set up

 15:49 <didrocks> nothing for me

 15:49 <willcooke> Hopefully next week will be back to "normal"

 15:49 <Sweet5hark> didrocks: "Why are my libreoffice icons so ugly when directly installing from ISO?"

 15:49 <didrocks> oh yeah!

 15:49 <Trevinho> willcooke: I missed my topic sorry...

 15:49 <didrocks> and why my buttons are going on the right in the installer mode, is it the new default? :p

 15:49 <Trevinho> willcooke: can I paste it now?

 15:49 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho

 15:49 * Sweet5hark hides in a corner and cries.

 15:49 <willcooke> Trevinho, go go go!

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Renamed rls-w-incoming bugs to rls-x-incoming

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Added keybindings to unity to only open in spread the windows of the focused application.

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Add Quicklist item to desktop-less apps to add them to the dash (generating .desktop file, if possibile)

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Done a switcher model refactory so that it's dynamic (it updates promptly when an app/window opens/closes)

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Improved unity keyboard utils, so that it's possible to get key near to another in any position

 15:49 <Trevinho> · Added a new keybinding to the: Switcher Alt+key_right_to_Tab (Q for non French guys :P) now closes the selected app/window.

 15:49 <Trevinho> · The \"landing-011\" saga is over. The whole new unity7 stack is in xenial.

 15:49 <Trevinho> 

 15:49 <willcooke> :)

 15:49 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho

 15:50 <Trevinho> yw

 15:50 <willcooke> oki, ending the meeting, thanks everyone for being quick

 15:50 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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