== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-10-27, 27 Oct at 15:30 — 15:51 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-10-27-15.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' http://sandbox.chad.org/shock-horror-three-note-sting-ringtone.mp3 
=== andyrock ===
The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:32.


=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:32.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:33.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:35.


=== didrocks ===
The discussion about "didrocks" started at 15:36.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:37.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:38.


=== hikiko-lpt ===
The discussion about "hikiko-lpt" started at 15:39.


=== larsu ===
The discussion about "larsu" started at 15:39.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:40.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:42.


=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:44.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:44.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:44.


=== Trevinho ===
The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 15:46.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:46.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:47.


=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 15:47.

  * ''LINK:'' http://fun.familyeducation.com/images/Mr_Potato_Head_toy_H.jpg 



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (91)
 * desrt (16)
 * larsu (16)
 * didrocks (14)
 * seb128 (13)
 * qengho (9)
 * Sweet5hark (8)
 * attente (8)
 * FJKong (6)
 * tkamppeter (5)
 * ubot5 (4)
 * meetingology (3)
 * mpt (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-10-27

 15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 27 15:30:40 2015 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:30 <meetingology> 

 15:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:30 <qengho> Aiee!

 15:30 <willcooke> larsu, Hourly news!

 15:30 <willcooke> Roll call:  andyrock (out), attente, desrt,  dgadomski (out), didrocks, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko (out), laney (hols), larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)

 15:31 <didrocks> yep!

 15:31 <larsu> on. the. minute.

 15:31 <larsu> \o

 15:31 <willcooke> We need some dramatic music

 15:31 <larsu> 𝅘𝅥

 15:31 <qengho> http://sandbox.chad.org/shock-horror-three-note-sting-ringtone.mp3

 15:31 <FJKong> 好

 15:31 <larsu> oh, ubuntu mono doesn't have this. shame.

 15:31 <attente> hey hey

 15:32 <willcooke> #topic andyrock

 15:32 <willcooke> * Reviews for Marco's branches

 15:32 <willcooke> * Helping out with SRU (updating bugs, etc.)

 15:32 <willcooke> * Try to figure out what's going on with GtkSettings and unity (if we

 15:32 <willcooke> restart u-d-s we no longer get signals)

 15:32 <willcooke> * Keep working on reboot dialog branch (I spent just a couple of hours

 15:32 <willcooke> on it because of the other things to do)

 15:32 <willcooke> * Help fixing some unstable tests we had on compiz (together with Marco)

 15:32 <willcooke> * Upgrading to Wily (and fixing all the problems :D )

 15:32 <willcooke> #topic attente

 15:33 <attente> short week due to swap days

 15:33 <attente> uploaded more revisions to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756579

 15:33 <ubot5> Gnome bug 756579 in Widget: GtkMenu "GTK should let GDK position menus" [Normal,New]

 15:33 <attente> refreshed u-s-d java keyboard shortcuts ppa

 15:33 <attente> currently debugging gtk touch events on the device

 15:33 <attente> (eof)

 15:33 <willcooke> thanks attente

 15:33 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:35 <seb128> no desrt it seems

 15:35 <willcooke> she was here earlier, clock changes have won

 15:35 <larsu> should be around

 15:35 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski

 15:36 <willcooke> * prepared a debdiff for wily, vivid and trusty fixing bug #1337873

 15:36 <willcooke> * analysing polkit communicating pam_vas - I was not able to find any documentation about enabling debug messages there, found out that I need to use env variables (G_DEBUG_MESSAGES=all for polkitd and POLKIT_DEBUG for polkit agents). Going to document it somewhere if it isn't already.

 15:36 <willcooke> * I would appreciate letting me know if anybody noticed behaviour described in bug #1509369

 15:36 <willcooke> * I'm going to have a closer look at bug #1308152, although it's expired I've heard a user complaining about something very similar. Need to confirm whether it's the same bug.

 15:36 <ubot5> bug 1337873 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "Precise, Trusty, Utopic - ifupdown initialization problems caused by race condition" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337873

 15:36 <ubot5> bug 1509369 in gdm (Ubuntu) "gdm runs in vt7 and gnome-shell in vt2 after resuming" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509369

 15:36 <ubot5> bug 1308152 in linux (Ubuntu) "Cant boot from kernel 3.13.0.24 after upgrade to ubuntu 14.04 LTS but able to boot with Kernel 3.11.0.20" [Low,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308152

 15:36 <willcooke> #topic didrocks

 15:36 <didrocks> ubuntu-make:

 15:36 <didrocks> - continued and finished (hopefully) work to make the tests way more reliable, look at all this green: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/udtc-trusty-tests/ \o/ (the yellow 4 failures over 30*2*700 tests are network (client or server) issues).

 15:36 <didrocks> - updated python-pexpect to take a dimension parameter helping in the stability in the udtc ppa. Didn't upload to xenial yet as we need to figure out the python2 support (some functions only compile on python3).

 15:36 <didrocks> - final review and merged oijazsh's work on relocating by default paths to .local/share/umake instead of tools/.

 15:36 <didrocks> - continued reviewing PR (force and back) for netbeans support.

 15:36 <didrocks> - add a --version + some automation on autobumping to newer numbering. Support as well when running from git master via sha and dirty tags.

 15:36 <didrocks> - bug management

 15:36 <didrocks> misc:

 15:36 <didrocks> - did quite a lot of iso testing for release, debugging u-s-d crash, raised some bugs.

 15:36 <didrocks> .

 15:36 <willcooke> thanks didrocks

 15:36 <didrocks> (4 days week btw, was swapping)

 15:37 <willcooke> I have spoken to legal and have got the paper work and have since spoken to Cadsoft and Fritzing, will keep you posted

 15:37 <didrocks> thx!

 15:37 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:37 <FJKong> only one line :

 15:37 <FJKong> continue work on lib apng, for sogou IM new feature: support animate skin

 15:37 <FJKong> in progress..

 15:37 <FJKong> eof

 15:37 <willcooke> thanks FJKong

 15:38 <willcooke> FJKong, I still haven't been back in to London to visit the hotel, I will see if someone in the office can do me a favour and pop over there!

 15:38 <willcooke> #topic happyaron

 15:38 <FJKong> :p

 15:39 <willcooke> #topic hikiko-lpt

 15:39 <willcooke> I had a few days off these week, but so far: I am trying to figure out

 15:39 <willcooke> which of the branches that Marco showed me at the sprint causes the

 15:39 <willcooke> background update issues on Unity and blocks me with the ezoom

 15:39 <willcooke> development. Also, I am reading the unity code to find the best way to

 15:39 <willcooke> implement the generic shadows we discussed at the sprint +I started a

 15:39 <willcooke> small program where I can load my shaders in order to test the visual

 15:39 <willcooke> part of the algorithm in the meantime. Apart from that I've done some

 15:39 <willcooke> minor fixes on nux and unity (mostly fixed syntax disamb. problems and

 15:39 <willcooke> deprecated calls in tests to get rid of compiler warnings). EOF :

 15:39 <willcooke> #topic larsu

 15:40 <larsu> hey

 15:40 <larsu> - blind patching unity-settings-daemon signal disconnection

 15:40 <larsu> - fix taking screenhots on hidpi (upstream)

 15:40 <larsu> - track down the dbus log spam when i-messages and accountsservice talk to each other

 15:40 <larsu> - probably some other minor stuff I can't remember :/

 15:40 <larsu> </larsu>

 15:40 <willcooke> :) thanks larsu

 15:40 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:41 <qengho> - Adding autopkgtests, especially for Chromium translations changeover.

 15:41 <qengho> - Debugging same translations change.

 15:41 <qengho> - Tracking down a bug with default-browser setting. Varies by environment of course.

 15:41 <qengho> - Will release Cr 45 once those are worked out.

 15:41 <qengho> - Current laptop just broke! Shopping for new laptop. I know nothing about hardware any more. I like old Thinkpads. Help?

 15:41 <qengho> EOF

 15:41 <willcooke> oh noez

 15:41 <willcooke> Someone had a new TP at the sprint, right?

 15:42 <willcooke> qengho, poke popey - he knows about these sorts of things

 15:42 <qengho> ack

 15:42 <willcooke> #topic seb128

 15:42 <seb128> • iso testing

 15:42 <seb128> • updated libmtp's apport hook so it works

 15:42 <seb128> • looked at u-s-d segfault in ubiquity mode, provided debug info and tested/landed fix from Lars

 15:42 <seb128> • fixed some other unity-settings-daemon issues (segfault on xsettings unload, warnings)

 15:42 <seb128> • reported upstream file-roller translation bug

 15:42 <seb128> • xenial fun, lot of merges&updates, spent some time refreshing the versions script info (new components which didn't have upstream details)

 15:42 <seb128> </week>

 15:42 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 15:42 <seb128> (help on merges and GNOME updates would be welcome)

 15:42 <seb128> (seems not a lot of us are working on that atm)

 15:43 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 15:43 <willcooke> please help out if you can folks ^^^

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:44 <seb128> thanks ;-)

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - LibreOffice Hackfest

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - more code review and mentoring

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - uploaded 1:5.0.2-0ubuntu3/wily and 1:5.0.2-0ubuntu4/xenial

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> -- latter disables coinmp/collada/gltf as we dont what to MIR those as per sprint

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - marketing coordination/events planning

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - upgrade to wily

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - prepared pbuilders/jenkins jobs for xenial

 15:44 <Sweet5hark> EOF

 15:44 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso

 15:44 <willcooke> * Continued orca gsettings backend work, hope to have something for users to test by next week.

 15:44 <willcooke> * Preparing merges/updates for Xenial, looking to update the a11y stack to the latest stable, and also considering putting in Pulse 7, although there may be a 7.1 coming out soon with some key fixes, so may wait.

 15:44 <willcooke> * Helped Debian with packaging work for a11y stack updates.

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 15:45 <willcooke> - cups-filters: Finished cups-browsed functionality to save user-changed option settings on generated print queues, to make the settings permanent when cups-browsed is removing this queues when the remote printer disappears and generating them again when the printer re-appears.

 15:45 <willcooke> - cups-filters: Started working on possibility to define option default settings in the cups-browsed.conf file.

 15:45 <willcooke> - Bugs.

 15:45 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Added possibility to define option default settings in the cups-browsed.conf file.

 15:45 <tkamppeter> - Ubuntu Phone: mpt is back, trying to talk with him.

 15:45 <mpt> o/

 15:45 <tkamppeter> ^^Update

 15:45 <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter  :)

 15:45 <willcooke> wb mpt

 15:45 <tkamppeter> mpt has answered on #ubuntu-design now, too

 15:45 <tkamppeter> all at the same time.

 15:45 <willcooke> :D

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho

 15:46 <willcooke> � Trusty SRU proposed (and prepared the whole list of bugs with andyrock)

 15:46 <willcooke> � Unity side of mouse pointer HiDPI scaling support

 15:46 <willcooke> � Gtk+3 patch for rgba tooltips

 15:46 <willcooke> � Close shutdown dialog on lock request (when laptop lid is closed)

 15:46 <willcooke> � Meeting with Kylin guys

 15:46 <willcooke> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu%20Kylin/Meeting/2015/20151022)

 15:46 <willcooke> � Fixed warning in unity-panel-service not properly resetting an Idle

 15:46 <willcooke> � Released Unity 7.3.3

 15:46 <willcooke> � Prepared wily / xenial branches for unity, compiz and bamf

 15:46 <willcooke> � Landing of new unity, compiz and bamf in xenial (unity FTB for

 15:46 <willcooke> libsic++ changes)

 15:46 <willcooke> 

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 15:46 <willcooke> - Update XMir for overlay PPA

 15:46 <willcooke> - GNOME 3.18 updates for xenial

 15:46 <willcooke> - Simple scan 3.19.1 released

 15:46 <willcooke> - LightDM fixes / merges

 15:46 <willcooke> #toipic desrt

 15:46 <larsu> *toypic

 15:47 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:47 <desrt> sorry.  net connection here is unreliable and my ssh connection died without me realising it so i was waiting for the meeting ping and it never came :)

 15:47 <desrt> - working on some hardware-assisted bounds-checked arithmetic helpers for glib

 15:47 <desrt> - adding support to GBytes for ranged-checked memory accesses

 15:47 <desrt> - fending off bug backlog

 15:47 <desrt> eof

 15:47 <willcooke> thanks desrt

 15:47 <willcooke> #topic AOB

 15:47 <willcooke> I'm off tomorrow and Friday and Monday

 15:47 <willcooke> \o/

 15:47 <desrt> lol.  i thought we hired a newbie called AOB and i missed the memo.

 15:48 <desrt> willcooke: any particular reason?

 15:48 <larsu> http://fun.familyeducation.com/images/Mr_Potato_Head_toy_H.jpg

 15:48 <willcooke> desrt, holiday

 15:48 <desrt> larsu: the new guy?

 15:48 <larsu> desrt: toipic

 15:48 <larsu> actually the first result for toypic

 15:48 <desrt> ouch.

 15:49 <desrt> you responded to willcooke's request by toipic'ing me

 15:49 <desrt> ...

 15:49 <seb128> thanks everyone

 15:49 <seb128> willcooke, enjoy the days off work!

 15:49 <willcooke> any more for any more

 15:49 <willcooke> thanks seb128  :)

 15:49 <attente> what's a "hardware-assisted bounds-checked arithmetic helper?"

 15:49 * desrt 's got nothin'

 15:49 <didrocks> thanks

 15:49 <desrt> attente: oh... not as fancy as it sounds

 15:49 <larsu> attente: it's in glib!

 15:50 <desrt> basically just using the hardware flags field to detect the overflow case

 15:50 <desrt> since this bit gets set if int math overflows, but it's not possible to check it from C

 15:50 <desrt> clang has had some intrinsics for this for a while, and GCC5 added them too

 15:50 <attente> oh cool

 15:51 <willcooke> oki, ending meeting, please carry on though

 15:51 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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