== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-09-22, 22 Sep at 15:30 — 16:10 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-09-22-15.30.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === andyrock === The discussion about "andyrock" started at 15:33. === attente === The discussion about "attente" started at 15:33. === desrt === The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:34. === dgadomski === The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:37. === didrocks === The discussion about "didrocks" started at 15:37. === FJKong === The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:38. === desrt === The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:41. === happyaron === The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:43. === hikiko === The discussion about "hikiko" started at 15:43. === Laney === The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:44. === larsu === The discussion about "larsu" started at 15:46. === qengho === The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:50. === seb128 === The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:51. === sweet5hark === The discussion about "sweet5hark" started at 15:59. === TheMuso === The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:59. === tkamppeter === The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 16:00. === Trevinho === The discussion about "Trevinho" started at 16:02. === robert_ancell === The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 16:03. === any other business === The discussion about "any other business" started at 16:03. * ''LINK:'' http://www.animalstown.com/animals/animals-x.php == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * willcooke (95) * seb128 (46) * Laney (44) * didrocks (21) * Trevinho (20) * larsu (19) * desrt (14) * FJKong (10) * qengho (7) * tkamppeter (4) * dgadomski (4) * ubot5 (3) * attente (3) * meetingology (3) * andyrock (2) * hikiko (1) == Full Log == 15:30 #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-09-22 15:30 Meeting started Tue Sep 22 15:30:53 2015 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:30 15:30 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:30 let's meet! 15:31 Roll call: andyrock (out), attente, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron (out), hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark (probably out), themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevino, robert_ancell (out) 15:31 * Trevinho with "h" is here :) 15:31 revino 15:31 evino 15:31 hi 15:31 vino 15:31 ino 15:31 no 15:31 hey 15:31 o 15:31 15:32 hey 15:32 Vino... (means wine in Italian :p) 15:32 Three wines, plz 15:32 that's it :D 15:32 \o 15:32 * willcooke fixes his list 15:33 and has one of the wines 15:33 :D 15:33 Right then... 15:33 #topic andyrock 15:33 * Bug scrubing 15:33 * Investigating on why the scopes on 15.04+ are not reliable 15:33 * Code reviews 15:33 * Helping understanding the cause of #1497002 Recent Wily i386 live 15:33 DVDs load with no launcher, top bar, desktop icons, etc. There is a 15:33 quick workaround 15:33 * Updating some old branche 15:33 #topic attente 15:34 popup menu placement continued, in the process of porting over several gtk widgets to it 15:34 spent a day up at xdc with desrt and robert_ancell 15:34 (eof) 15:34 thanks attente 15:34 #topic desrt 15:36 desrt we will come back to you 15:37 #topic dgadomski 15:37 hey 15:37 only 1 thing in the desktop area this week: I've been looking into the reason for problems with installing PPA version of octave on trusty with HWE updates - bug #1424059. Looks like the cause was incorrect resolving of versioned dependencies with 'Provides:'. A workaround for now is to prepare a osmesa-less build of octave (agreed with the ppa maintainer and tested). 15:37 bug 1424059 in mesa (Ubuntu Trusty) "libosmesa6 conflicts with libglapi-mesa-lts-*" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1424059 15:37 EOF 15:37 thanks a lot dgadomski 15:37 #topic didrocks 15:37 o/ 15:38 !\ This reports include the last 2 weeks as was on a conference last week 15:38 didrocks: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) 15:38 Ubuntu Make: 15:38 - released 15.09.2 featuring Android SDK downlod only, exit code fixes (both of those, by external contributor) 15:38 - added additional pep8 and tests fixes. Loving pep8 on trusty btw (no easy way to get something passing on trusty pep8 and wily pep8 in term of identation) :p 15:38 - archived our daily jenkins test jobs to ensure we have an in-code backup 15:38 - bugs management and PR reviews 15:38 Developer experience: 15:38 - experiment and play on our developer experience writing a Go service on snappy 15:38 - write that experience on a (too long) documentation, one with and without snapcraft, on a VM and with a raspbery pi 2 15:38 - draft what our next step for developer experience on snappy should be and separation of tools concerns 15:38 - attended to various meetings on this 15:38 Misc: 15:38 - attended to Polymer first ever conference. Back with some plastic ideas on how our HTML5 developer story should be 15:38 - talked with dbarth about an eventual prototyping around our HTML5 developer story & polymer would be 15:38 - archive admin and patch piloting duties 15:38 EOF 15:38 thanks didrocks 15:38 #topic FJKong 15:39 pinyin search: 15:39 improve speed of indexing file to db 15:39 research on index every first Chinese Character 15:39 switch to cmake 15:39 sogou pinyin: 15:39 test right clicking pop menu 15:39 eof 15:40 thanks FJKong 15:40 FJKong, any visa issues or is that all good? 15:41 zomg. sorry! 15:41 no problem 15:41 FJKong, great! 15:41 #topic desrt 15:41 I have VISA for 2 years for UK 15:41 FJKong, excellent, that's worked out nicely then 15:42 hey desrt 15:42 hey. had a minisprint last week for a few days, also went to xdc for a day and worked on the usual inotify stuff during friday. did some patch reviewing and stuff this morning. 15:42 doing better the Ai Weiwei 15:42 not much else to report 15:42 thanks desrt 15:43 #topic happyaron 15:43 1. fcitx package update (but not a complete fix, thanks Laney) 15:43 2. libxml2 NMU mess resolved for Debian 15:43 http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debian-xml-sgml/libxml2.git/diff/?h=debian/2.9.2%2bzdfsg1-4&id=76c19f4d5b3328c05649314336d27c1f44a49e96&id2=fccd80a7d35b9eefabcc384d5c9fe89d9545dd22 15:43 3. ubiquity slideshow update for Ubuntu Kylin 15:43 4. fcitx upstream bug triaging/analysis: 15:43 a) misconfiguration cases - a lot for those who turn off the 15:43 installation of Recommends packages 15:43 b) fcitx ^w out-of-process UI has issues when the desktop runs 15:43 with thin client configurations 15:43 5. pinyin search packaging: in progress 15:43 #topic hikiko 15:44 hi, : closed some bugs, fixed the cube and deformed cube caps images that appeared off-center, and I am going to investigate this shadow bug and a few other issues that were revealed while I was trying to reproduce the problem and fix the cubeaddon eof 15:44 thanks hikiko 15:44 #topic Laney 15:45 • Normal release team stuff (FFes and so on) 15:45 • Test/sync glib 15:45 • Work on some s-l-o-w machines to address a gdk-pixbuf build failure - Company committed it upstream & I just uploaded to Debian, will sync if it works. 15:45 • gtk 3.16.7 15:45 • glib 2.45.8 15:45 ∘ smooth some test failures (upload/fwd a fix for tracker, some retries) 15:45 • Patch pilot, concentrated on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ubuntu-desktop.html - almost empty, help appreciated on the remainders. 15:45 • Notice Unity was deleting launcher icons when applications were upgraded, slight behaviour change in glib, fix that. 15:45 • Hopefully fix some trigger loops to avoid (dist-) upgrade failures 15:45 • Look at new default wallpaper, needs greyscale version 15:45 • Update gst-fluendo-mp3 in Debian to new release & drop 0.10 version 15:45 • Fix toolbar fullscreen hiding in eog, not uploaded since waiting for other fixes 15:45 ☠ 15:46 Laney made the glib top contributors list this cycle 15:46 HAHA 15:46 thanks Laney 15:46 I think the barrier was pretty low 15:46 #topic larsu 15:46 thanks larsu ♥ 15:46 Laney, we should have a look at updating the fluendo plugin in the partner archive 15:46 - investigate and fix unity crasher (bug #1495173) 15:46 - unsuccessfully hunt down dbus-monitor bug (file it instead) 15:46 - [in progress] geonames: package, review, think about how to efficiently incorporate translations 15:46 bug 1495173 in Unity "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in g_bit_lock()" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1495173 15:46 - [in progress] unity-control-center: draft branch that works with geonames 15:46 - [in progress] eog: fix fullscreen toolbar; add traditional menubar 15:46 - [in progress] investigate making all output go to the journal and use gnome-logs 15:47 15:47 s/>/u>/ 15:47 thanks larsu 15:47 sorry about all the in progress stuff 15:47 * larsu should wrap up 15:47 seb128, larsu shall we talk fluendo now or at the end? 15:47 yes 15:47 s/larsu/laney 15:47 larsu, good list of in progress ;-) 15:48 willcooke: you and didrocks.... 15:48 larsu, btw I tried gnome-logs, it's nice but we loose e.g access to Xorg.0.log 15:48 so unsure if we should switch this cycle 15:48 or plan better for next cycle 15:48 yes, wait for next 15:48 it's too tight 15:48 k 15:48 also missing traditional menu and title bar 15:48 willcooke, sorry for interrupting ;-) 15:48 nw 15:48 larsu, well, that's ok 15:49 more annoying at the windows corners 15:49 but that's not specific to gnome-logs 15:49 seb128: blame Trevinho... 15:49 yeah, we need to put that bug on the lts list 15:49 +1 15:49 seb128: I'm all for doing the switch in gtk, but then we lose shadows 15:49 Trevinho, do you have a unity/compiz bug for that? 15:50 seb128: mh, I think i read something, let me check 15:50 Trevinho, thanks 15:50 willcooke, I think we can continue with the meeting ;-) 15:50 :) 15:50 #topic qengho 15:50 * fixed new armhf build problem with chromium-browser. 15:50 * l10n and Athlon SSE worries worked out, so giving to #security for release. 15:50 * learning how to work on firefox. Hopefully will prepare next release. 15:50 * looked for flights, but haven't picked one yet. 15:50 EOF 15:51 thanks qengho 15:51 #topic seb128 15:51 qengho: will it fix the autopkgtests? 15:51 • synced some bugfix updates from debian 15:51 • desktop updates (totem, webkitgtk, bluez) 15:51 • NEW reviews 15:51 • fixed u-c-c/bluez5 regression with ssp devices 15:51 • reviewed e.u.c top errors, reported some bugs on launchpad and upstream, pinged some people about some of the issues 15:51 • helped with the unity bugs triaging 15:51 • investigated software-center/unity integration issue 15:51 • looked at syslog warnings and reported some bugs with details about some of those 15:51 • reviewed packaging & tried new geonames library for larsu 15:51 • contributed to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=rls-w-incoming ... if you have some free cycles please try to have a look and pick a few bugs 15:52 we have quite some annoying bugs on that list ^, would be nice to tackle some before wily if we can 15:52 Laney: No, it won't. That's some dependency of a dependency of a dependency problem that I haven't tracked down. 15:52 willcooke, I wonder if we need another list for wily, or maybe milestone as well 15:52 you're meant to triage from the incoming list 15:52 seb128: thanks for looking at those warnings! 15:52 we dumped "would be nice to fix for the lts" on rls-w-incoming 15:52 seb128, well I was adding to that list because X-incoming doesn't (didnt) exist 15:53 Laney, yeah, but we didn't use it this way, we used it as a lts todolist... 15:53 or use priority to order the list? 15:53 Laney, see ^ 15:53 so I think if we can do anything on that list now, great - but then we can do a proper review at the sprint at take across the ones we want 15:53 it can be both 15:53 didrocks, launchpad doesn't have priority, importance you mean? but some "low" importance are easy to fix and should be done for wily imho 15:53 to target bugs, nominate and remove the tag 15:53 review the rest of them to move to rls-x-incoming 15:54 seb128, oh - right, what you said. Misread it. 15:54 seb128: importance, yeah, sorry, I think we could focus on the critical/high one. Doesn't prevent anyone having some free time to pick an easy "low" one 15:54 right 15:54 we should probably make a rls-x-incoming and move things there 15:54 +1 15:54 good 15:54 thanks 15:54 why? 15:55 or, why before this release? 15:55 Laney, to have a better view of what is for wily 15:55 and what is not 15:55 that view is supposed to be http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-tracking-bug-tasks.html 15:55 so we just need to accept nominations? 15:56 nominate and remove the tag 15:56 * Laney just checked that old email 15:56 k 15:56 wfm 15:56 going to do that 15:56 Laney, thanks ;-) 15:56 then we can see what's left after release to move over 15:56 ty 15:56 I didn't use that page for a while, I forgot how it was working 15:56 try with some test one at first maybe 15:56 to make sure it works 15:56 right 15:57 ok, that sounds good 15:57 so keep adding to rls-w-incoming for now then 15:58 :-) 15:58 * willcooke checks the sprint agenda 15:59 added 15:59 to the top 15:59 #topic sweet5hark 15:59 - LibreOffice conference 15:59 #topic TheMuso 16:00 * Finished packaging up PulseAudio 6.99.2, which will become 7.0 shortly. It can be found in ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/pulse-testing, amd64 and i386 only, armhf failed to build due to qemu related segfault. 16:00 * Fleshed out a little more design for the accessibility profile blueprint, and finished drafting a blog post about it. 16:00 * Started preparing at-spi and orca package updates to be put into the Ubuntu Accessibility dev PPA for general use. Updates will be provided from ppa:accessibility-dev/ppa for Orca, and the at-spi stack, for the LTS, vivid, and wily. 16:00 #topic tkamppeter 16:00 - hplip: Backported hpcups crash fix from upstream, use pkexec instead of gksu for hp-plugin-ubuntu 16:00 - cups: USB-backend: Added new quirk rules for delayed closing of the backend for several older HP LaserJet printers 16:00 - ippusbxd: Released 1.23 which logs all communication content as hex dump in debug mode and actually automatically terminates when the printer is disconnected or turned off. 16:00 - Bugs. 16:00 tjamls tkamppeter 16:01 erm, thanks tkamppeter 16:01 tkamppeter, did your parcel arrive yet? 16:02 #topic Trevinho 16:02 · Debugging webkit-gtk to get proper OSB theming. Speaking with upstream. 16:02 · Fixed unit tests on nux, now they run at every build. 16:02 · Fixed nux events handling on mouse-release when a new view was getting the mouse input 16:02 · Some tweaking on bugs management scripts 16:02 · Show-menus-tuning unity branch 16:02 · New unity/nux landing 16:02 · Add selective grab to compiz and use it in move and resize plugins 16:02 · New fixes for gsettings in libunity 16:02 · Prepared no-change SRU for compiz in vivid to get dbgsym's 16:02 · Finished work on new dash OSB (after fighting with nux bugs and oddities), needs cleanup 16:02 · Got sprint flights 16:02 · Reviews 16:02  16:03 :) thanks Trevinho 16:03 #topic robert_ancell 16:03 - Attended XDC 2015 16:03 - Released simple-scan 3.18.0 16:03 #topic any other business 16:04 Please get your travel auth in if you haven't already 16:04 Anyone else? 16:04 i'd like to share this: 16:04 http://www.animalstown.com/animals/animals-x.php 16:04 :D 16:05 do I need to do auth to buy the train ticket myself? 16:05 Laney, nah, just expense it 16:05 yessssssssssss 16:05 well, that's what I'm doing 16:06 do we need to ask for a pass card to enter in the office? 16:06 nah 16:06 \o/ 16:06 andyrock, you'll get a visitors badge 16:06 * willcooke will make sure reception are expecting you 16:06 are we staying at citizenM? 16:07 desrt, we are 16:07 * Trevinho has an office pass :P 16:07 awesome 16:07 I find the place a bit oppressive tbh 16:08 it's modern and not too fancy 16:08 and the plumbing works properly 16:08 hahaha 16:08 and the windows don't rattle 16:08 and there are less ghosts 16:08 they also have international power plugs in the room 16:09 because, ya, sometimes hotel guests come from other countries 16:09 for some reason nobody consider the Italian plug anyway (with ground in the middle) 16:09 ??? 16:09 they have a bed which you can sleep in any way round 16:09 and colouful showers 16:09 so it wins for me 16:09 * willcooke likes the breakfast 16:09 they also have a nice downstairs area 16:09 yes. breakfast is very very good there. 16:10 the staff is also friendly and helpful 16:10 I'm probably only going to stay over weds & thurs night and commute the rest of the time. Because babies 16:10 anyway - we can continue this after the meeting 16:10 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)