15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-08-11
15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug 11 15:30:40 2015 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:30 <desrt> heh
15:30 <willcooke> Hello everyone!
15:30 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong (travel), happyaron (travel), hikiko, laney, larsu (hols), qengho (hols), seb128, sweet5hark (hols), themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevino (hols), robert_ancell (out)
15:30 <andyrock> hey
15:31 <desrt> new people!!
15:31 <hikiko> hello :)
15:31 <willcooke> yay!
15:31 <dgadomski> hey
15:31 <desrt> hi hikiko :D
15:31 <hikiko> I'm sorry I have to go... :)
15:32 <hikiko> hi desrt !
15:32 <willcooke> hikiko, do you want to go first?  Have you got time?
15:32 <hikiko> yes :)
15:32 <willcooke> #topic hikiko
15:32 <willcooke> hikiko, GO GO GO!
15:33 <hikiko> I worked on the ezoom plugin fixed the icons preprocessing (unity-launcher) to scale properly (modelview matrix modification) and did some progress with the bug no #1480863 but didn't fix it :)
15:33 <hikiko> eof
15:34 <willcooke> thanks hikiko
15:34 <willcooke> #topic andyrock
15:34 <hikiko> goodbye everyone :)
15:34 <andyrock> hey
15:34 <seb128> hikiko, bye
15:34 <willcooke> cya hikiko
15:34 <andyrock> basically i've been working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1449654 last week
15:34 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1449654 in unity (Ubuntu) "windows can be resized from wrong workspace" [Medium,In progress]
15:34 <andyrock> there is already an approved MP
15:35 <andyrock> and this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1457276
15:35 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1457276 in unity (Ubuntu) "Drop-down sound menu has no delay" [High,In progress]
15:35 <andyrock> it's almost done
15:35 <andyrock> i'm not going to use a delay but math to improve the situation
15:35 <andyrock> basically this: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qXGkfaSw/triangle.png
15:35 <willcooke> good stuff, thanks andyrock.  There will be some happy users to see those fixes in.
15:35 <andyrock> yeah atm it's pretty buggy
15:36 * Laney remembers a unity bug to file/search for
15:36 <Laney> muhahah
15:36 <willcooke> :D
15:36 <andyrock> maybe i'll do a MP by the end of the day
15:36 <seb128> andyrock, nice one ;-)
15:36 <andyrock> not sure what is going to be my next bug
15:37 <andyrock> we cannot make thing perfects but it should improve the current situation
15:37 <andyrock> to make things better we should introduce a delay
15:37 <andyrock> but we don't like delays
15:37 <willcooke> oki, we can discuss the specifics later on and we can look at other bugs too.
15:38 <willcooke> andyrock, anything else you want to report?
15:38 <andyrock> that's all for me
15:38 <willcooke> cool, thanks a lot!
15:38 <andyrock> np
15:38 <willcooke> #topic attente
15:38 <willcooke> hey attente
15:38 <seb128> andyrock, btw that's bug #552920 which has pointers and nice comments from mpt
15:38 <ubot5> bug 552920 in unity (Ubuntu) "Moving diagonally from narrow menu title often opens adjacent menu" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/552920
15:38 <attente> getting up to speed with libertine, debugged some small issues
15:38 <attente> first stab at building a click package containing a libertine container
15:38 <attente> (eof)
15:39 <seb128> andyrock, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710388 as well
15:39 <ubot5> Gnome bug 710388 in Widget: GtkMenu "Menu navigation triangle doesn't work anymore" [Normal,New]
15:39 <seb128> attente, what is libertine?
15:39 <andyrock> seb128: thanks!
15:40 <seb128> andyrock, yw!
15:40 <attente> seb128: it's a project that should make it easier to create containers (lxc/chroot) for legacy x apps
15:41 <seb128> k, interesting
15:41 <attente> seb128: https://github.com/ubuntu-libertine/libertine
15:41 <seb128> thanks
15:41 <willcooke> thanks attente
15:41 <willcooke> #topic desrt
15:42 <willcooke> desrt, welcome back from hols!
15:42 <desrt> thanks :D
15:42 <desrt> basically spent the last day getting out from under my pile of emails
15:42 <desrt> starting to dig into bugs next...
15:42 <desrt> anything anyone needed while i was gone?
15:43 <Laney> mclasen was after you
15:43 <desrt> cool.  i'll ping.
15:43 <desrt> looks like BoFs are still on at guadec
15:44 <willcooke> thanks desrt
15:44 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
15:44 <willcooke> Hey dgadomski - how's OEM looking?
15:44 <dgadomski> actually I'm not OEM, I'm sustaining engineering inside cloud ops
15:44 <dgadomski> :)
15:45 <willcooke> wait what
15:45 <willcooke> you lie
15:45 <dgadomski> I never lie :)
15:45 <willcooke> I need to stop huffing glue
15:45 <willcooke> sorry dgadomski
15:45 <dgadomski> no worries
15:46 <dgadomski> * prepared a debdiff to fix bug #1464645 for trusty
15:46 <ubot5> bug 1464645 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "Samba shares over gvfs do not respect ACL rules" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464645
15:46 <dgadomski> * still working towards fixing bug #1124250
15:46 <ubot5> bug 1124250 in linux (Ubuntu Utopic) "Partially incorrect uid mapping with nfs4/idmapd/ldap-auth" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124250
15:46 <dgadomski> EOF
15:46 <willcooke> That SMB bug will be a nice fix to see
15:46 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
15:46 <dgadomski> thanks
15:46 <willcooke> #topic didrocks
15:46 <didrocks> /!\ long report (to compensate the incoming 4 characters one from Laney)
15:47 <didrocks> * Ubuntu Make:
15:47 <didrocks> - reviewed and merged scala support by ivuk. Will be in next release.
15:47 <didrocks> - reviewed and merged some fixes for progress bar out of range exception from a new contributor, asked to add some tests for it.
15:47 <didrocks> - multiple reviews and comments on eclipse mars + other eclipse derivatives support as well as some tests refactoring by the same new contributor. Still in progress.
15:47 <didrocks> * Ubuntu developer program:
15:47 <didrocks> Continue developping the example app. This week was:
15:47 <didrocks> - add i18n support and encountered issues with our default qmake template with i18n
15:47 <didrocks> - found a singleton best practice and implement global app settings this way (as well as settings page with some expand item toolkit issues)
15:47 <didrocks> - add a DateTime picker handling both Date and Time (not supported upstream) and provide best practice/workaround u1db issues on dates.
15:47 <didrocks> - add comments and binary attachement through using the contenthub and provides/creates best practices around it (and on testing on desktop) for importing and handling images (to finish). Provide some more workaround for model and u1db issues.
15:47 <didrocks> - some small global polishing (error handling, no results, first opening, rewording) and refactoring to avoid duplicating properties
15:47 <didrocks> - opened more than 20 toolkit-related bugs due to various issues encountered above (and which I had to workaround) + discuss with upstream on each of those. Let's hope they got them fix soon! At least, we have documented workarounds and best practices now :)
15:47 <didrocks> * Misc:
15:47 <didrocks> - advice to some of our upstream team on how to keep one branch with different package names (soname changes) due to gcc5 transition
15:47 <didrocks> .
15:48 <willcooke> merci didrocks
15:48 <willcooke> #topic Laney
15:48 <didrocks> de rien :)
15:48 <tjaalton> didrocks: no need to reboot, next crash or logout is enough :)
15:48 <Laney> I added some more characters
15:48 <Laney> but you can really just read g++5 if you want
15:48 <willcooke> :D
15:48 <Laney> • short week: hols Thursday and Friday
15:48 <Laney> • g++5 hell - what did we do to deserve this?
15:48 <Laney> ∘ many package renames
15:48 <Laney> ∘ many no-change rebuilds
15:48 <Laney> ∘ such breakage, build fixes, NMUs and stuff
15:48 <Laney> ∘ wow
15:48 <Laney> • Some transition tracker maintenance to avoid false negatives
15:48 <Laney> • Next: moar g++5, dbus 1.10 (rc), e-d-s 3.16.5, debconf
15:48 <Laney> • Anyone know how to fix https://plus.google.com/+IainLane/posts/asJo19AJShN so I can expand my unicode repertoire?
15:48 <Laney> ⚜
15:49 <willcooke> thank you Laney, your diligence in the fight with GCC5 is very much appreciated
15:49 <willcooke> Laney, oh - and....
15:49 <willcooke> Fonts
15:49 <willcooke> :(
15:49 <Laney> Ph0ntz
15:49 <willcooke> word
15:49 <willcooke> but another day
15:49 <willcooke> #topic seb128
15:49 <seb128> • spent over a day fighting with phone images/os-es to restore a formatted imei :-(
15:49 <seb128> • landed u-c-c wily update (sound panel fix + logo update)
15:49 <seb128> • worked a bit on the gcc5 transition
15:49 <seb128> • refreshed the bluez5 transition packages, fought a bit with u-c-c to get it working, the ppa should be mostly working, extra testers&feedback would be welcome
15:49 <seb128> • reviewed/tested/sponsored some bluez4 fixes for touch (and wily)
15:49 <seb128> • bugs triage (desktop & touch)
15:50 <seb128> </week>
15:50 <willcooke> merci seb128
15:50 <seb128> de rien !
15:50 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
15:50 <willcooke> * Continued planning for new accessibility profile implementatino for 16.04, hoping to allow support for all GTK/GNOME based flavours.
15:50 <willcooke> * COntinued work on Speech Dispatcher, mostly upstream.
15:50 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
15:50 <willcooke> - Released lightdm 1.15.1, 1.15.2
15:50 <willcooke> - XMir bug investigation
15:50 <willcooke> - Added detection of scanners without drivers to Simple Scan.
15:50 <willcooke> - Fixed XCB -dev package names
15:50 <willcooke> - Update depends in packages to stop using transitional package names
15:51 <willcooke> ooops, missed out...
15:51 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
15:51 <willcooke> * Some vacation time :) -> Spent some time on the pile of backlog
15:51 <willcooke> * Started refactoring unity switcher model to be dynamic (content should
15:51 <willcooke> update when switcher showing)
15:51 <willcooke> * Implementing Alt+Tab+$key_next_to_tab to close active app/win in
15:51 <willcooke> switcher (bug #1468820)
15:51 <willcooke> * Some experiments for implementing GNOME-like overlay scrollbars in
15:51 <ubot5> bug 1468820 in Unity "close windows from switcher [wishlist]" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1468820
15:51 <willcooke> unity dash
15:51 <willcooke> * Got flights and prepared documents to go to China
15:51 <willcooke> * Reviewed some unity branches
15:51 <willcooke> * Got CI-Train keys and studied the landing process
15:51 <willcooke> #topic Any Other Business
15:52 <Laney> a China trip that I don't get to go on? :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(:( :( :( :(:(:(:(:(:(
15:52 <willcooke> Yeah, hikiko and Trevinho get to visit this time
15:52 <seb128> Laney was looking forward chinese spies try to hack his laptop again
15:52 <Laney> yeah I got a new one since then
15:52 <willcooke> They've already done that
15:52 <Laney> although, guess where it shipped from
15:52 <Laney> ...
15:52 <andyrock> ahaahahah
15:52 <willcooke> XD
15:53 <willcooke> I've suggested that they visit The Great Wall, same place we went
15:53 * didrocks wants a Japan trip
15:53 <Laney> is it the same kind of thing?
15:53 <willcooke> +1 for Japan
15:53 <willcooke> Laney, yeah, same deal
15:53 <Laney> mmm
15:53 <willcooke> We have an SRU request from OEM, need to speak to ara about it some more tomorrow
15:54 <willcooke> A few interesting threads on the -desktop mailing list right now, worth checking if you haven;t already
15:54 * willcooke is planning to reply to them all, but just in a holding pattern
15:55 <willcooke> oh, Laney there is *another* font release coming.  \o/
15:55 <Laney> um
15:55 <willcooke> Design have asked dpm to find some help for testing, so maybe we can pass the release work over too
15:55 <Laney> what for?
15:55 <willcooke> Laney,  a new thin version
15:56 <Laney> does that mean we should skip this one?
15:56 <willcooke> I see the email subject, haven't opened it yet.  Plausible deniability
15:56 * dpm confirms Design got in touch and we're looking at how we can help
15:56 <Laney> good strategy
15:56 <didrocks> ahah, "managers read emails" -> subject :)
15:56 <willcooke> could do, since there is not real point in making two releases
15:56 <Laney> that would make me happy
15:56 <willcooke> didrocks, I haven't got time to *read* the things.  I've got slides to work on
15:57 <willcooke> #notjoking
15:57 <didrocks> willcooke: and spreadsheets to file in!
15:57 <Laney> (tequila to drink)
15:57 <didrocks> :)
15:57 <willcooke> Laney, I'll get up to speed and fill you in later
15:57 <Laney> no... rush...
15:57 <willcooke> :)
15:58 <willcooke> oh, also... I asked Trevinho to look at making the dash OSB look like the new Gnome ones - should be doable.
15:58 <seb128> tequila filling for Laney?!
15:58 <Laney> he said that in his status
15:58 <seb128> Laney, that's better than a China trip ;-)
15:58 <Laney> seb128: heidelberg tequila party
15:58 <willcooke> ah, yeah it's that reading emails thing
15:58 <seb128> \o/
15:59 * Laney needs to get some C&W
15:59 <Laney> can't turn up to debconf empty handed
15:59 <willcooke> ah yes - have fun at the weekend folks
15:59 <willcooke> any more topics?
15:59 <seb128> not from me
16:00 <willcooke> in 5.....
16:00 <Laney> nein
16:00 <willcooke> ..4..
16:00 <didrocks> keine topic :)
16:00 <seb128> I already mentioned it in my weekly summary, but bluez5 should be ready in the ppa and testing would be welcome
16:00 <seb128> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/transitions/
16:00 <seb128> I emailed devel/phone lists about it as well
16:00 <willcooke> awesome, thanks seb128
16:00 <seb128> yw!
16:00 <willcooke> 3,2,1, #endmeeting
16:01 <seb128> thanks!
16:01 <willcooke> #endmeeting