== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop Meeting, 30 Jun at 15:31 — 15:58 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-06-30-15.31.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:33.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:37.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:38.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 15:39.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:40.


=== larsu ===
The discussion about "larsu" started at 15:44.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:46.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:50.


=== Sweet5hark1 ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark1" started at 15:50.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:51.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:51.


=== other topics ===
The discussion about "other topics" started at 15:52.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * seb128 (71)
 * Laney (32)
 * qengho (11)
 * Sweet5hark1 (10)
 * larsu (9)
 * attente (7)
 * FJKong (6)
 * dgadomski (4)
 * tkamppeter (4)
 * meetingology (3)
 * ubot5 (1)
 * pitti (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:31 <seb128> #startmeeting

 15:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 30 15:31:36 2015 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:31 <meetingology> 

 15:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:32 <dgadomski> o/

 15:33 <seb128> ok, let's get started

 15:33 <seb128> #topic attente

 15:33 <seb128> attente, hey

 15:33 <attente> hi

 15:33 <qengho> YAY

 15:34 <attente> revisions to apparmor kernel patch for dconf again, waiting for review

 15:34 <attente> merge the gtk-mir wip branch into upstream master and backport those patches to the ubuntu gtk package

 15:34 <attente> debugging a weird issue where the backend is sending mouse release events immediately after mouse press events, only affects our package

 15:34 <attente> (eof)

 15:35 <seb128> thanks for updating our gtk versions/backporting the fixes from trunk!

 15:36 <attente> np! but this mouse event bug is pretty bad...

 15:36 <seb128> yeah, I guess it's next to debug?

 15:36 <attente> yeah. it's basically making it impossible to click anything other than the menus

 15:37 <seb128> right

 15:37 <seb128> attente, thanks

 15:37 <seb128> I guess no desrt (I think he said he was off monday/tuesday)

 15:37 <seb128> #topic dgadomski

 15:37 <seb128> dgadomski, hey

 15:37 <dgadomski> hey

 15:37 <dgadomski> There were no desktop issues reported to me lately, so this week I was busy with non-desktop stuff.

 15:38 <dgadomski> That's it, thanks.

 15:38 <seb128> dgadomski, thanks

 15:38 <seb128> #topic FJKong

 15:38 <Laney> we fixed all the bugs \m/

 15:38 <seb128> FJKong, hey

 15:38 <FJKong> hi

 15:38 <FJKong> 1 continue working on fixing lacking status bar image

 15:38 <FJKong> 2 add input tip to sogou Shuang Pin Im

 15:38 <FJKong> 3 get feek back from community: sometimes input window shows abnormal

 15:38 <FJKong> 4 one day holiday

 15:38 <FJKong> eof

 15:39 <seb128> FJKong, thanks

 15:39 <seb128> #topic happyaron

 15:39 <seb128> happyaron, hey

 15:40 <seb128> no happyaron?

 15:40 <seb128> #topic Laney

 15:40 <seb128> Laney, hey

 15:41 <Laney> hi

 15:41 <Laney> • Worked  more on e-d-s and gstreamer transitions, these are both (still?) blocked on Canonical people helping me out :)

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtorganizer5-eds/+bug/1469208

 15:41 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1469208 in qtorganizer5-eds (Ubuntu) "Recurrence test fails with e-d-s 3.16" [Undecided,New]

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ email with jhodapp about updating gst-bad, says he will get it scheduled

 15:41 <Laney> • Start looking at webkitgtk2 transition for main

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ Ported shotwell

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ Ported apturl (simple)

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ Look at evolution (argh)

 15:41 <Laney> ∘ Some other apps have WIP ports upstream

 15:41 <Laney> • Update glib2.0 (in progress, gio/tests/appmonitor fails, desrtttttt)

 15:41 <Laney> • Check/upload gtk3.16 mir backend refresh

 15:41 <Laney> • Work with seb128 to get poppler/wps/proj migrated & do some final updates

 15:41 <Laney> • Fix chromium autopkgtest & sikuli to get this migrated and unblock glib -> gtk which were waiting on it

 15:41 <Laney> ☄

 15:42 <Laney> actually I take it all back

 15:42 <Laney> 4e7d22e268a4e06beb1c09585a48288c31004da5 is the first bad commit

 15:42 <Laney> commit 4e7d22e268a4e06beb1c09585a48288c31004da5

 15:42 <Laney> Author: Matthias Clasen <mclasen@redhat.com>

 15:43 <qengho> Thanks laney!

 15:43 <seb128> Laney, thanks

 15:43 <qengho> That sikuli thing is bothering me. There has to be a way to detect the require jar files at package time, instead of keeping them in a script.

 15:43 <seb128> unsure what the commits are about

 15:43 <qengho> It will break again.

 15:44 <Laney> the one that broke glib's test

 15:44 <seb128> oh, the failed appmonitor test

 15:44 <seb128> k

 15:44 <seb128> :-)

 15:44 <seb128> Laney, thanks

 15:44 <seb128> #topic larsu

 15:44 <larsu> ey that's me

 15:44 <seb128> larsu, hey

 15:44 <larsu> had a very short week due to two days off

 15:45 <larsu> worked on those 1000 little theming and icon bugs that people pinged me with in the last couple of weeks

 15:45 <larsu> expect big MRs this week (maybe I should separate them a bit?)

 15:45 <seb128> yeah, regular landing of small bits seems better than batching a big stack

 15:46 <larsu> lots of very small bits though

 15:46 <larsu> but I agree

 15:46 <larsu> will do that

 15:46 <larsu> otherwise the usual: Bugs.

 15:46 <larsu> </larsu>

 15:46 <seb128> larsu, thanks

 15:46 <seb128> #topic qengho

 15:46 <seb128> qengho, hey

 15:47 <qengho> * Commercial PES/OEM support.

 15:47 <qengho> * Getting chromium-browser widevine plugin supported if installed manually or Google Chrome installed.

 15:47 <qengho> * Reviewed NaCl patches for contributor. Might get that working, and packaged before 15.10!

 15:47 <qengho> * Un-blacklisting all GPU in chromium, but setting the preference to default to Off. Might need to get apport pattern if errors.u.c spikes again.

 15:47 <qengho> * chromium-browser release tomorrow, with ^fixes.

 15:47 <qengho> EOF

 15:48 <seb128> qengho, at the meeting a week ago you said "I'll ask you to sponsor today." about the new version, what happened to that?

 15:49 <qengho> Laney fixed the test problem, and commercial folks wanted widevine support included.

 15:50 <seb128> he did fixed it some days after since you didn't give news about your upload and didn't respond to ping

 15:50 <seb128> oh, well

 15:50 <seb128> qengho, thanks

 15:50 <seb128> #topic seb128

 15:50 <seb128> ok, my turn ;-)

 15:50 <seb128> • snappy fun still ongoing

 15:50 <seb128> ∘ debugging unity8/mir not starting, after 2 days trying to figure out what's going between lightdm/usc/unity8 (and trying to get help from people knowing those component better) figured out that usc is waiting on vt8 and that lightdm doesn't do the switch, when doing it manually unity8 starts!

 15:50 <seb128> ∘ noticed then that unity8 regressed in wily and that the desktop session shows the phone greeter now, tracked down the issue to a recent landing and reported bug/pinged unity team

 15:50 <seb128> ∘ updated livecd-rootfs to write a /e/d/locales config on desktop-next

 15:50 <seb128> • reviewed some u-s-s and u-s-d merge requests

 15:50 <seb128> • some NEW reviews & archive admin commands for Laney

 15:50 <seb128> </week>

 15:50 <seb128> mostly still trying to get snappy personal working, but getting there

 15:50 <seb128> #topic Sweet5hark1

 15:50 <Laney> my favourite script runner

 15:50 <seb128> Sweet5hark1, hey

 15:51 <Sweet5hark1> - bumped prereleases ppa from 5.0~rc1 to ~rc2

 15:51 <Sweet5hark1> - merged from Debian (ongoing)

 15:51 <Sweet5hark1> - discussed/provided support for LibreOfficeKit on Ubuntu touch

 15:51 <Sweet5hark1> - some upstream refactoring/test adding (finally blogged on that: https://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/i-would-kill-500-lines-and-i-would-kill-500-more/ )

 15:51 <Sweet5hark1> - bumped LibreOffice fresh ppa to 4.4.4 (rc2 and rc3, which is final)

 15:51 <Sweet5hark1> - some LTS patch backporting

 15:51 <Sweet5hark1> - some GSOC mentoring

 15:51 <Sweet5hark1> - usual foundation and ESC tasks: some conf orga, major release prep, grants and budgeting

 15:51 <Sweet5hark1> - most importantly: made the LibreOffice build system default to colored output on an interactive shell *cough*

 15:51 <Sweet5hark1> EOF

 15:51 <seb128> Sweet5hark1, thanks

 15:51 <seb128> #topic tkamppeter

 15:51 <seb128> tkamppeter, hey

 15:51 <tkamppeter> - Made ippusbxd (IPP-over-USB daemon) getting started and keep running in systemd environment.

 15:51 <tkamppeter> - Worked on finding out how to reliably stop ippusbxd when the printer is turned off or disconnected.

 15:51 <tkamppeter> - Added functionality to try always to use the same port for ippusbxd and change only if the desired port is already taken by something else.

 15:51 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.

 15:51 <seb128> tkamppeter, thanks

 15:51 <seb128> #topic robert_ancell

 15:51 <seb128> - Updated version tracker to current wily package versions.

 15:51 <seb128> - Made a GNOME version page (http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/gnome.html). This makes it easier to see a similar / simpler set of packages to update (the other lists have too many packages).

 15:51 <seb128> - Open bugs for all GNOME packages we have yet to update to 3.16 (particularly so we can note why we haven't updated them in the case of difficult transitions)

 15:51 <seb128> - Updated various wily packages to latest stable versions.

 15:52 <pitti> tkamppeter: stop stuff when printer is turned off> udev rules?

 15:52 <seb128> #topic other topics

 15:52 <seb128> did I forget anyone? do we have other topics?

 15:52 <Laney> help welcome on wk2 ;-)

 15:53 <Laney> not sure we will get there this cycle

 15:53 <seb128> is debian doing that transition as well?

 15:53 <seb128> do we have any insensitive to go ahead with that now?

 15:53 <Laney> not actively

 15:53 <Laney> the old version doesn't get updates any more

 15:53 <seb128> I would rather postpone the work if it's not really needed

 15:54 <Laney> not even the webkit level of security support

 15:54 <Laney> staying on an ancient version forever doesn't seem great

 15:54 <seb128> yeah, I'm not saying forever, but we could let others do the heavy lifting by postponing by one cycle

 15:55 <seb128> well, if we have the spare resources to do it and people want to work on it I'm not against it either

 15:55 <Laney> ya I was doing stuff which nobody started on

 15:56 <seb128> k

 15:56 <seb128> if anybody feels like helping on that please do ;-)

 15:56 <Laney> and I think I will not do evolution, that looks hadrd

 15:56 <seb128> anything else?

 15:56 <Laney> -> probably not make 15.10

 15:56 <seb128> it means transition in a lts cycle though :-/

 15:57 <Laney> ya

 15:57 <seb128> k, I guess we can wrap the meeting

 15:57 <seb128> thanks everyone

 15:58 <Laney> thanks!

 15:58 <seb128> #endmeeting



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