== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop Meeting, 14 Apr at 15:32 — 16:04 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-04-14-15.32.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== attente ===
The discussion about "attente" started at 15:33.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:39.


=== dgadomski ===
The discussion about "dgadomski" started at 15:44.


=== didrocks ===
The discussion about "didrocks" started at 15:48.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:51.


=== larsu ===
The discussion about "larsu" started at 15:53.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:56.


=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:56.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:58.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:59.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 16:00.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 16:00.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 16:01.


=== happyaron ===
The discussion about "happyaron" started at 16:02.


=== other topics ===
The discussion about "other topics" started at 16:02.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * seb128 (117)
 * didrocks (23)
 * larsu (17)
 * dgadomski (12)
 * desrt (11)
 * Sweet5hark (10)
 * FJKong (8)
 * qengho (7)
 * attente (7)
 * ubot5 (5)
 * willcooke (4)
 * Laney (4)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 15:32 <seb128> #startmeeting

 15:32 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 14 15:32:05 2015 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:32 <meetingology> 

 15:32 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:32 <seb128> not forgetting the bot this time!

 15:32 * Sweet5hark reporting in

 15:32 <dgadomski> hey o/

 15:32 <attente> hi

 15:32 <seb128> let's get started

 15:33 <seb128> #topic attente

 15:33 <seb128> attente, hey

 15:33 <willcooke> qengho, can you come to the oxide meeting?

 15:33 <qengho> yes. I thought I was in it!

 15:33 <willcooke> qengho, will send you a HI link

 15:33 <willcooke> HO

 15:33 <willcooke> qengho, oh - I see you :)

 15:34 <attente> trying to write a service that should allow us to switch between input method frameworks without restarting the session

 15:34 <attente> gtk already includes some support, but not sure if it'll work under unity8 since we don't have u-s-d there

 15:34 <attente> for qt4 and qt5, we'll have to write a proxy input method plugin to forward to the active framework

 15:34 <qengho> willcooke: I have two invitations. Wrong one.

 15:35 <seb128> attente, hum, did you talk to anyone about the service?

 15:36 <seb128> it might be a good idea to have other people participating to the conversation so we do something that is futur proof

 15:36 <attente> seb128: not yet, but i'm pretty sure we're going to need it at some point if we want to be able to switch between maliit and ibus/fcitx

 15:37 <attente> especially because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maliit-framework/+bug/1245925

 15:37 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1245925 in maliit-framework (Ubuntu) "Troublesome export in /etc/profile.d/maliit-framework.sh" [Undecided,Triaged]

 15:37 <seb128> attente, right, just saying that we should have the conversaiton in front

 15:37 <seb128> otherwise we risk having a design that doesn't accomodate all needs and to have to throw away and start again

 15:37 <seb128> which would be a waste

 15:38 <seb128> anyway, let's get moving

 15:38 <seb128> attente, thanks

 15:39 <seb128> #topic desrt

 15:39 <attente> sure

 15:39 <seb128> desrt, hey

 15:40 <desrt> hey

 15:40 <seb128> desrt, weekly summary?

 15:40 <desrt> had a pretty unproductive week -- spent some time at the doctor

 15:41 <desrt> but i managed to get to the bottom of the text/plain fallback class of bugs

 15:41 <desrt> currently rewriting a bit of the code there to avoid some extra memory allocations (and get rid of the remaining leak)

 15:41 <desrt> should be done today

 15:41 <desrt> also continued work on the no-polling-with-inotify-missing-files stuff

 15:42 <desrt> still not feeling 100%, but am quite a bit better, so hopefully next week will be a bit more productive :p

 15:42 <desrt> (end)

 15:43 <seb128> desrt, hope you recover fully soon!:

 15:43 <seb128> desrt, is the mimetype fix something we might be able to backport to vivid/for stable?

 15:43 <desrt> yes

 15:44 <seb128> great

 15:44 <seb128> desrt, thanks

 15:44 <seb128> #topic dgadomski

 15:44 <seb128> dgadomski, hey

 15:44 <dgadomski> hey

 15:44 <dgadomski> * bug #445333 fixed, the user is super happy! Thanks! Side note - the bug has been out there since 2009 :)

 15:44 <ubot5> bug 445333 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Trusty) "remember password on printing to windows printers does not work" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445333

 15:44 <dgadomski> * SRU complete, bug #1020210 fixed for precise

 15:44 <ubot5> bug 1020210 in eglibc "Race condition using ATOMIC_FASTBINS in _int_free causes crash or heap corruption" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020210

 15:44 <dgadomski> * there is a user experiencing weird Evolution crashes related to some specific content, although there are no crashdumps after them. Looks like Evolution is not using any non-standard, so I am expecting crashdumps from apport to be present in /var/crash. Is that right?

 15:45 <seb128> dgadomski, sorry it took a while on that gtk/printer bug, thanks for the work and persevering to get it SRUed

 15:46 <dgadomski> seb128: it was quite a change for SRU, so I'm happy that it got through at all :)

 15:46 <seb128> dgadomski, apport should trigger yes, not sure why it doesn't ... if the user can reproduce get him to use gdb?

 15:46 <dgadomski> seb128: I asked him to do that, waiting for feedback

 15:46 <seb128> k

 15:46 <seb128> dgadomski, thanks

 15:46 <dgadomski> and one more thing:

 15:46 <dgadomski> * a problem related to printing from Evince. User's setup: remote cups printer connected to a prorietary Unix server, Ubuntu workstation. The problem is about sending username to cups. The username is not used for authentication, the user just needs it to be printed on every sheet to identify who the printout belongs to. So it works as expected for any other gtk3 application (e.g. gedit, evolution), but fails for Evince. I will take a lo

 15:46 <dgadomski> ok into the code to check out how it does handle printing. Ccan you recommend anybody that has the knowledge in the Evince area? Just in case.

 15:46 <seb128> sure :-)

 15:47 <seb128> nobody specific for that issue

 15:47 <seb128> just ask on the channel I think, a bunch of us can help you

 15:48 <dgadomski> seb128: great, thanks, I'll file a bug for discussion as soon as I will get an overview of what is going on there

 15:48 <dgadomski> that's it from me, thanks

 15:48 <seb128> thanks dgadomski

 15:48 <seb128> #topic didrocks

 15:48 <seb128> didrocks, hey

 15:48 <didrocks> hey

 15:48 <didrocks> ubuntu make:

 15:48 <didrocks> - default install path discussions

 15:48 <didrocks> - last turn of bug triaging before vivid release, nothing big needing a last minute upload

 15:48 <didrocks> systemd:

 15:48 <didrocks> - systemd fsckd discussion (again) on the upstream ML. Will be kicked off soon, so prepared for this and sanitize the set of patchs in few ones, adapt to v219 and add the last patch which has never been peer-reviewed upstream changing the way fsckd/fsck/plymouth connect to each other (fewer messages and socket chains)

 15:48 <didrocks> - add some more fixes to have systemd autopkgtest being independent of lightdm failures (fix flacky tests). Ensure that fsck autopkgtests still work with this.

 15:48 <didrocks> - xdiagnose fix to ensure people shooting in their feet by removing the display manager but still booting to graphical target gets a system booting (bug #1441883)

 15:48 <ubot5> bug 1441883 in xdiagnose (Ubuntu) "15.04 Vivid Vervet won't boot after uninstalling lightdm" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441883

 15:48 <didrocks> misc:

 15:48 <didrocks> - port gconf (debian scripts), webapps-applications and xdiagnose to python3

 15:48 <didrocks> - wrote some thoughts about converged desktop

 15:48 <didrocks> - help/discuss/sponsor larsu's work on gtk3/g-t handling backward compatible (thanks!)

 15:48 <didrocks> - patch pilot followup with sponsorees

 15:49 <didrocks> .

 15:49 <seb128> didrocks, sorry about how the systemd/fsckd thing went :-/

 15:49 <desrt> :(

 15:50 <didrocks> seb128: well, seeing how another thread on fsck is happening on systemd, I feel not alone at least

 15:50 <seb128> yeah

 15:50 * larsu met the systemd guys on a bridge yesterday

 15:50 <larsu> like, all of the rh ones

 15:50 <didrocks> and I avoided harsh words on my thread, contrary to the other ones :)

 15:50 <larsu> should've said something :)

 15:50 <desrt> larsu: or pushed them in the water :)

 15:50 <didrocks> larsu: well, seems they made their mind, no worry

 15:50 <seb128> didrocks, staying class for the win :-)

 15:51 <larsu> desrt: that's mean (and impossible)

 15:51 <didrocks> but yeah "fsck is a thing of a past", not sure I agree with this

 15:51 <didrocks> the*

 15:51 <larsu> because btrfs!!!!!1!

 15:51 <seb128> larsu, should have told them to proxy buy you a beer for poor didrocks!

 15:51 <larsu> seb128: haha yeah

 15:51 <didrocks> ;)

 15:51 <seb128> :-)

 15:51 <seb128> anyway

 15:51 <seb128> didrocks, thanks!

 15:51 <didrocks> yw!

 15:51 <larsu> seb128: just met them while walking the other direction and said hi real quick

 15:51 <Sweet5hark> hrhr

 15:51 <seb128> #topic FJKong

 15:51 <seb128> FJKong, hey

 15:51 <FJKong> hey

 15:52 <FJKong> * sogou IM new version realease testing, core dump file analyzing

 15:52 <FJKong> * learn sample of vala-sqlite for create a scope

 15:52 <FJKong> * track with bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1380981

 15:52 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1380981 in Ubuntu Kylin "In UEFI mode, default langauge in Ubiquity language chooser is not Simplified Chinese" [Critical,New]

 15:52 <FJKong> * go to visa office  submit the material and interview

 15:52 <FJKong> * Beijing Office Gathering - Invited by Jon

 15:52 <FJKong> .

 15:53 <FJKong> EOF

 15:53 <seb128> FJKong, thanks

 15:53 <seb128> #topic larsu

 15:53 <seb128> larsu, hey

 15:54 <larsu> hi

 15:54 <larsu> not a lot from me. Worked on gtk and theming bugs this week

 15:54 <larsu> and plan to do that for the rest of the week as well

 15:54 <larsu> (including some triage)

 15:54 <larsu> like the --class thing,gedit underlines, long discussion about horizontal scrolling, etc

 15:55 <larsu> also some flight booking and sneezing (got sick again :( )

 15:55 <larsu> fin.

 15:55 <seb128> I saw you triaged some gtk buygs, thanks for doing that ;-)

 15:55 <seb128> hope you shake out the bugs before London!

 15:55 <larsu> seb128: got distracted right after I started unfortunately

 15:55 <seb128> larsu, thanks

 15:55 <larsu> seb128: but got to close upstream ones as well in the procrss

 15:55 <seb128> good :-)

 15:56 <seb128> ok, next is...

 15:56 <seb128> #topic qengho

 15:56 <seb128> qengho, hey, there or in that meeting?

 15:56 <qengho> Both.

 15:56 <qengho> - in progress: updating flash player for PES, merging two packages.

 15:56 <qengho> - in progress: convergence mobile-desktop handoff and SNNS file parsing.

 15:56 <qengho> - stalled: chromium update for precise

 15:56 <qengho> EOF

 15:56 <seb128> qengho, thanks

 15:56 <seb128> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:56 <seb128> Sweet5hark, hey

 15:57 <Sweet5hark> heya

 15:57 <Sweet5hark> - snappy stuff -- FWIW, I think I need some talk time about that in London ;)

 15:57 <Sweet5hark> - backport verification

 15:57 <Sweet5hark> - prepared LibreOffice 4.3.7~rc1 for PPA

 15:57 <Sweet5hark> - upstream refactoring for the next release, killed 1000 LOC convulted C++ production code so far (out of a 5100 LOC file), not quite there yet with adding 1000 LOC of test code in return ...

 15:57 <Sweet5hark> - quarterly reports, annual reports, budgeting (ugh)

 15:57 <Sweet5hark> EOF

 15:57 <seb128> re. snappy, London is going to be a good time to talk about, I think it's going to be a topic for several discussions

 15:58 <seb128> Sweet5hark, thanks

 15:58 <Sweet5hark> seb128: great!

 15:58 <seb128> #topic seb128

 15:58 <seb128> • helped to SRU a unity-control-center fix to trusty

 15:58 <seb128> • changed unity-settings-daemon to not do hidpi scaling on the greeter, unity-greeter is having issue with that that needs to be resolved first

 15:58 <seb128> • reviewed/landed vivid fixes to unity-control-center

 15:58 <seb128> • sponsored libreoffice update

 15:58 <seb128> • backported gnome-font-viewer segfault bugfix

 15:58 <seb128> • change bluez to restart the bluetoothd service on errors

 15:58 <seb128> • updated translations in xdg-user-dirs and language-selector for vivid

 15:58 <seb128> • ubuntu-system-settings

 15:58 <seb128> ∘ looked a bit at some issue with the clicks listed in storage and upgrades

 15:58 <seb128> ∘ fixed issue where the discharge graph would start with a spike

 15:58 <seb128> ∘ investigated a bit wrong optionselector value in the lock settings

 15:58 <seb128> • some discussions about hidpi issues in ubiquity

 15:58 <seb128> • tried to debug data not working on the phone, turned out to be a sim issue (android having the same problems/giving as few feedback on it than we do) :-(

 15:58 <seb128> • quite some bugs triage (launchpad & e.u.c) for vivid, pinged people about some issues, looked at some other myself as well

 15:58 <seb128> </week>

 15:59 <seb128> ok, so I think that's it for people here, summaries from others now!

 15:59 <seb128> #topic robert_ancell

 15:59 <seb128> Worked on:

 15:59 <seb128> - Fix gnome-calculator FTBFS

 15:59 <seb128> - Investigate snappy framework for XMir

 15:59 <seb128> - Investigate DRI3 enablement for Intel driver

 15:59 <seb128> - Simple Scan 3.16.1.1, 3.14.3 releases and SRUs

 15:59 <seb128> - Unity Greeter 15.04.4 release

 16:00 <seb128> #topic TheMuso

 16:00 <seb128> * Took some errors.ubuntu.com bug reports/crashers for pulseaudio upstream, and getting them looked into. Bug reports in the upstrea tracker will be added to the lp bugs once it has been determined that we do not yet have a fix that we can cherry pick from upstream.

 16:00 <seb128> * Discussion with unity 7 team about some classes relating to some dash widgets, and private classes needing to be exposed publically for a11y improvement work.

 16:00 <seb128> * Started looking into the best way to make sed classes be publically available for improving dash filter settings a11y.

 16:00 <seb128> #topic Laney

 16:00 <seb128> • Very many queue reviews and FFe reviews

 16:00 <seb128> • Patch pilot, some random extra sponsoring too (adwaita-icon-theme

 16:00 <seb128> upgrade robustification, an update to Debian for seb)

 16:00 <seb128> 

 16:01 <seb128> (hum, client seems to not like the copy spam ... let's try again)

 16:01 <seb128> Laney still

 16:01 <seb128> • Updates: cairo  gtk+3.0 gvfs gtksourceview3

 16:01 <seb128> ∘ package new dconf and dconf-editor in exp for syncing in W

 16:01 <seb128> • Shadows fix in ubuntu-themes (& land this), thanks to ochosi

 16:01 <seb128> • Pick some stuff from the FTBFS and rls-v bug lists to fix before release - next up: proposed-migration.

 16:01 <seb128> ✑

 16:01 <seb128> #topic tkamppeter

 16:01 <seb128> - cups-filters: Solved the problem of the frequent crashes of cups-browsed

 16:01 <seb128> - cups-filters: Upstream release of 1.0.68, especially containing the crash fix.

 16:01 <seb128> - ghostscript: Applied an upstream bug fix of Ghostscript taking too long when printing DjVu files out of evince.

 16:01 <seb128> - Organizational stuff for trip to Desktop Sprint and OpenPrinting Summit

 16:01 <seb128> - Bugs.

 16:02 <seb128> #topic happyaron

 16:02 <seb128> * Released sogoupinyin/1.2.0.0048

 16:02 <seb128> * Ubuntu Kylin RC preparation, bug fixings and uploads

 16:02 <seb128> * Kubuntu fcitx default for zh_* locales

 16:02 <seb128> * Sogou Wubi preparation,

 16:02 <seb128> * Contacts and preparation of Ubuntu Phone's sogoupinyin

 16:02 <seb128> * Working on 1439202 and 1440391

 16:02 <seb128> #topic other topics

 16:02 <seb128> ok, updates spam done

 16:02 <seb128> do we have any other topic?

 16:02 <seb128> did I forget anyone?

 16:02 <Laney> I made it back!

 16:02 <didrocks> Laney: too late, your report was copied already :)

 16:02 <larsu> Laney: a minute too late!

 16:03 <Laney> oh, well, hi ;-)

 16:03 <didrocks> with the unicode character, all fine!

 16:03 <seb128> hey Laney

 16:03 <seb128> Laney, any comment/other topic? ;-)

 16:04 <Laney> nein

 16:04 <seb128> ok, seems not

 16:04 <Laney> final freeze is tomorrow though

 16:04 <seb128> it's a wrap then, thanks everyone

 16:04 <seb128> #endmeeting



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