== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Weekly Desktop Team Meeting - 2015-01-27, 27 Jan at 15:30 — 16:03 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-01-27-15.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== attente_ ===
The discussion about "attente_" started at 15:33.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:34.


=== dgadomski_ ===
The discussion about "dgadomski_" started at 15:36.


=== didrocks ===
The discussion about "didrocks" started at 15:44.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:46.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:47.


=== larsu ===
The discussion about "larsu" started at 15:51.


=== mlankhorst ===
The discussion about "mlankhorst" started at 15:54.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:56.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:59.


=== Sweet5hark1 ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark1" started at 16:00.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 16:01.


=== themuso ===
The discussion about "themuso" started at 16:01.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 16:01.


=== Any other business ===
The discussion about "Any other business" started at 16:02.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (72)
 * seb128 (28)
 * Laney (22)
 * dgadomski_ (15)
 * didrocks (14)
 * larsu (14)
 * Sweet5hark1 (14)
 * desrt (11)
 * FJKong (8)
 * mlankhorst (7)
 * qengho (6)
 * ubot5 (5)
 * attente_ (5)
 * meetingology (4)
 * bregma_ (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Weekly Desktop Team Meeting - 2015-01-27

 15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 27 15:30:53 2015 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:30 <meetingology> 

 15:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:31 <willcooke> Roll call:  attente_, desrt, dgadomski_, didrocks, FJKong, Laney, larsu, mlankhorst, qengho, seb128, Sweet5ark1

 15:31 <didrocks> hey

 15:31 <dgadomski_> hey o/

 15:32 <willcooke> I have updates for Themuso, robert_ancell, tkamppeter

 15:32 <willcooke> s/for/from

 15:33 <willcooke> Let's get this party started:  attente_

 15:33 <willcooke> #topic attente_

 15:33 <attente_> hi

 15:33 <attente_> implementing the menu api on the mir server side, small menu fixes to the gdk backend to use it

 15:33 <attente_> going to kernel bisect for https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1409133

 15:33 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1409133 in linux (Ubuntu) "Heavy black flickering after VT switching on Intel Ironlake Mobile." [High,Incomplete]

 15:33 <attente_> that's all from me

 15:33 <willcooke> good stuff, thanks attente_

 15:33 <willcooke> good luck with the bisect

 15:33 <attente_> thanks

 15:34 <willcooke> Let me know if you need anyone else pulling in to help

 15:34 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:34 <desrt> hi!

 15:34 <willcooke> How's CAM?

 15:34 <desrt> i have been sitting here for hours waiting for my turn

 15:34 <larsu> willcooke: under a bridge

 15:34 <desrt> it's lovely.

 15:34 <willcooke> :D

 15:34 <willcooke> Sorry I couldnt make it today - hopefully tomorrow will be easier

 15:34 <desrt> been getting a lot of good work done here.  a lot of long-term items are getting reviews and merged

 15:34 <willcooke> Awesome!

 15:34 <desrt> the unix mount monitor stuff will land before i leave, it seems

 15:35 <willcooke> great news

 15:35 <desrt> also we landed the G_DECLARE_TYPE header macro stuff

 15:35 <desrt> and now we are doing g_autoptr(GObject) which is a local variable that unrefs itself on scope ending

 15:35 <desrt> which is ... nice

 15:35 <desrt> GListModel probably also lands today or tomorrow

 15:35 <willcooke> neat

 15:35 <desrt> also chatting about some other things.... it's a good hackfest, in other words

 15:35 <willcooke> great news

 15:35 <desrt> that's all i really have to say

 15:35 <willcooke> thanks desrt

 15:36 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski_

 15:36 <dgadomski_> hey! I have some questions today and I appreciate your help in getting more info on those:

 15:36 <dgadomski_> * one of the users is having problems with getting external mics working on his Thinkpad X240 (bug #1414706). It does not work neither directly nor via a docking station. I believe it has something to do with either CTIA<->OMTP jack incompatibility or it may require some quirks passed to the snd-hda-intel model=. Do you know who could have some more info in that area?

 15:36 <ubot5> bug 1414706 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[20ALCTO1WW, Realtek ALC292, Black Mic, Left] No sound at all" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1414706

 15:37 <seb128> dgadomski_, try asking diwic or themuso

 15:37 <willcooke> Off the top of my head, I'd say TheMuso is probably a good starting point.  He's in UTC-12 so email would be easiest

 15:37 <willcooke> what seb128 said :)

 15:37 <dgadomski_> cool, thanks!

 15:37 <dgadomski_> * Somehow related to bug #1104230 - if you have some windows on an extra display, and then you disconnect the display, the window is moved to the display that is left. If you then reconnect that extra display - the window does not move back. Is a feature to restore the window missing or is it a bug? If it is missing - is it triaged to be fixed at some point? It's super annoying for a group of users using lapt

 15:37 <dgadomski_> ops with docking stations.

 15:37 <seb128> diwic is on #ubuntu-devel atm

 15:37 <ubot5> bug 1104230 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "DisplayPort 1.2 MST support is missing in the Intel driver" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1104230

 15:38 <willcooke> dgadomski_, yeah I've heard people complaining about that one as well

 15:38 <willcooke> dgadomski_, bregma_ & co should be able to help there

 15:38 <seb128> feature or bug doesn't make much a difference, does it?

 15:38 <seb128> but yeah, it's for bregma_'s team and a compiz thing

 15:39 <dgadomski_> yeah, if it's a bug there is a chance that the implementation is already there, just not working ;)

 15:39 <dgadomski_> * bug #445333 - I have talked to seb128 about it a while ago, are there any plans of including the fix in gtk2?

 15:39 <bregma_> well, on 14.04 when I reconnect my external display ALL windows move to it, so it's just a colleciton of bugs

 15:39 <ubot5> bug 445333 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu Trusty) "remember password on printing to windows printers does not work" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445333

 15:40 <seb128> dgadomski_, did upstream decide on what they want to do with this one?

 15:40 <seb128> I guess we could SRU it, it's just a non trivial change and would be good to have it landing upstream first

 15:41 <dgadomski_> seb128: they still haven't made decision yet, they are being super cautious with adding anything to gtk2

 15:41 <seb128> rightly so :-)

 15:42 <dgadomski_> there are some users already using the hotfix I provided and they haven't reported any regressions yet, but we don't want to break gtk2 :)

 15:42 <dgadomski_> I would appreciate considering it though

 15:43 <seb128> yeah, we should probably start by uploading it to vivid

 15:43 <dgadomski_> I mean consider backporting not breaking :)

 15:43 <dgadomski_> I have posted a debdiff for vivid so we could give it a try

 15:43 <seb128> right

 15:43 <seb128> I'm going to have a look at sponsoring it

 15:44 <dgadomski_> thank you

 15:44 <dgadomski_> that's all from me today, thanks

 15:44 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski_

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic didrocks

 15:44 <didrocks> Ubuntu Make:

 15:44 <didrocks> * Releasing Ubuntu Make 0.4.1 installing by default the java appmenu support and an intellij fix due to their web page change (http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Bringing-appmenu-support-for-java-application-and-Ubuntu-Make-0.4.1-with-an-Intellij-IDEA-fix)

 15:44 <didrocks> * Finishing up review and merging IDEA (non community) edition support

 15:44 <didrocks> * Start helping a new contributor for other IDEs support

 15:44 <didrocks> Systemd:

 15:44 <didrocks> * continue on fsckd communication, bringing: final plymouth communication, being able to cancel current fsck at boot time, i18n support for themes not supporting it.

 15:45 <didrocks> * review in progress, doing some polishing

 15:45 <didrocks> Misc:

 15:45 <didrocks> * patch pilot

 15:45 <didrocks> * AA duties

 15:45 <didrocks> .

 15:45 <willcooke> thanks didrocks

 15:45 <didrocks> yw

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:46 <FJKong> hey

 15:46 <FJKong> * Fix bug: after preview skin from right click menu status bar icon error

 15:46 <FJKong> * Fix bug: crash when switch skin from menu.

 15:46 <FJKong> * bug review: status bar icon error from some skin, find reason it is caused by size of picture and trasparent, won't fix this type

 15:46 <FJKong> * bug review: font size won't changed in setting menu, can't be reproduced

 15:46 <FJKong> in progress: skin error after first installed package

 15:46 <FJKong> here is mine

 15:46 <FJKong> .

 15:46 <willcooke> thanks FJKong

 15:47 <willcooke> #topic Laney

 15:47 <willcooke> <cake>

 15:47 <Laney> HELLO

 15:47 <Laney> • Mainly worked on splitting adwaita-icon-theme

 15:47 <Laney> ∘ getting the icons in the right package

 15:47 <Laney> ∘ removing all main deps on gnome-icon-theme to try and get g-i-t off the cd and ideally demoted to universe

 15:47 <Laney> ‣ need to fix a couple of remaining BDs now, including gnome-system-monitor, see later on

 15:47 <Laney> ∘ updating our icon theme to inherit from this

 15:47 <Laney> ∘ found some gtk reftests don't work with our icon theme, added a patch to force these to adwaita for now (at the very least we need rtl icons to fix this, or to skip that test ...)

 15:47 <Laney> • Poke at gnome-system-monitor transparent background, don't know what happen, larsu please halp

 15:47 <Laney> • Merge webkitgtk, need to SRU, will do this week

 15:47 <Laney> • Test eog without libgrip patches, using GTK's new GtkGesture support. It works! So those are now gone

 15:47 <Laney> • poppler transition, couple of packages needed porting, nobody seemed to notice (good)

 15:47 <larsu> Laney: drop overlay-scrollbars!

 15:47 <Laney> • got pung to clean up the cdimage building machine as it was running low on space

 15:47 <Laney> • Dig into a couple of proposed-migration issues for people

 15:47 <Laney> 🎂

 15:47 <seb128> lol

 15:48 <Laney> you get one more cycle of this shit, then we can :p

 15:48 <seb128> I could have bet on the o-s comment from larsu!

 15:48 <Sweet5hark1> ;)

 15:48 <larsu> Laney: I looked into it but couldn't find a solution either

 15:48 <seb128> can't you just override the bg color for g-s-m?

 15:48 <Laney> it's something to do with the border

 15:48 <seb128> you did it for deja-dup iirc

 15:49 <Laney> I can get the colour on the GtkBox but there's still a transparent border

 15:49 <Laney> which is even still there with * { background-color: red }

 15:49 <Laney> and border-color

 15:49 <Laney> ho hum

 15:49 <larsu> ya, that's what I saw as well

 15:49 <larsu> maybe we've reached the end of that hack

 15:50 <Laney> how can there be an unstyleable transparent area?

 15:51 <Laney> anyway, post-meeting ;-)

 15:51 <larsu> that's a good question

 15:51 <willcooke> </cake>

 15:51 <willcooke> thanks Laney

 15:51 <willcooke> #topic larsu

 15:51 <larsu> * finsihed up some gtk 3.14 theme fixes

 15:51 <larsu> * fixed the volume slider (wasn't moving properly when dragging)

 15:52 <larsu> * put gedit menubar back (upstream, almost ready to merge)

 15:52 <larsu> I have a package built for that, but it still has a header bar. Adding a titlebar makes it look weird

 15:52 <larsu> we decided to talk about what to do there when we see each other next week

 15:53 <larsu> * fixed an indicator-messages problem that phone people were hitting (unable to reply to messages)

 15:53 <larsu> * at a hackfest since sunday! Lots of discussions etc.

 15:54 <larsu> </larsu>

 15:54 <willcooke> thanks larsu

 15:54 <willcooke> #topic mlankhorst

 15:54 <mlankhorst> noon

 15:54 <mlankhorst> oh just in time

 15:55 <mlankhorst> working on xmir, getting lts-utopic packages accepted

 15:55 <mlankhorst> most of the desktop works now on es2 and mesa

 15:55 <mlankhorst> fixed the mesa dri2 acceleration too

 15:55 <mlankhorst> not much else going on right now :)

 15:55 <willcooke> thanks mlankhorst

 15:56 <willcooke> hopefully we can make a start on input stuff next week with the Mir guys

 15:56 <mlankhorst> cursor support would be nice too

 15:56 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:56 <qengho> Heya.

 15:56 <qengho> * More Mir work. Trying to figure out how to get around a dlopen'd protobuf problem. I may need advice here. More later.

 15:56 <qengho> * New chromium release 40.0.2214.93. Testing and fixing now.

 15:56 <qengho> EOF.

 15:56 <willcooke> !!  fast

 15:56 <willcooke> :)

 15:56 <willcooke> thanks qengho

 15:56 <seb128> new chromium \o/ :-)

 15:57 <qengho> seb128: You have DRI3, yes? I'll have something for you to test in 4h.

 15:57 <willcooke> mlankhorst /might/ be able to give you some pointers with Mir?

 15:57 <seb128> qengho, I don't know, I've an i5 intel video, how do I tell?

 15:57 <seb128> @mir, there is #ubuntu-mir as well, bunch of helpful people there :-)

 15:57 <meetingology> seb128: Error: "mir," is not a valid command.

 15:57 <qengho> seb128: if you had the crasher you asked about, you do. The intel driver is a good indicator you do.

 15:58 <seb128> k

 15:58 <seb128> I'm happy to do testing then

 15:59 <willcooke> qengho I saw that missing url bubble again the other day, but I still haven't worked out the cause of events which makes it happen, so I think it might be a JS thing, perhaps the URLs are not really URLs at all but JS functions. Going to look more next time

 15:59 <willcooke> #topic seb128

 15:59 <seb128> • tested touch rtm updates, reported some bugs

 15:59 <seb128> • some small ubuntu-system-settings reviews

 15:59 <seb128> • updated unity8 bugfix branch after review comments, got it landed

 15:59 <seb128> • updated casper to have the desktop-next iso starts the live session without the configuration wizard, users want to try the desktop not configure their user account/computer

 15:59 <seb128> • tried qtmir fix for gtk rendering issues on unity8

 15:59 <seb128> • worked on some ubuntu-system-settings privacy panel bugs

 15:59 <seb128> • helped debugging unity8-desktop not starting after yesterday updates (platform-api issue, being addressed)

 15:59 <seb128> • usual share of desktop related bugs triages and discussions

 16:00 <seb128> </week>

 16:00 <willcooke> thx seb128

 16:00 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark1

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> heya

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> - ran autopkgtests for 4.4.0 locally, tweaked around some failures

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> - uploaded libreoffice 4.4.0~rc2/vivid

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> -- includes these MIRs: libfreehand, libodfgen, libabw, libe-book, libeot

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> -- other MIRs/system libs punted for an later upload

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> -- (new) arm64 doesnt build yet because of internal mwaw (to investigate: can we simply build with external mwaw -> needs sync)

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> -- (new) ppc64el doesnt build yet because of gcc-4.7 missing, options: a/ check if newer gcc preprocessors work for LibreOffice by now b/ port gcc 4.7 on ppc64el too c/ MIR and use and test using ucpp instead on all platforms

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> -- however, forgot to remove ppc64el, arm64 from platform, done now with the just-created http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/vivid/4.4.0/libreoffice_4.4.0~rc2-0ubuntu2_source.changes

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> - finished libreoffice 4.2.8/trusty SRU

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> - some investigation on libreoffice android viewer, tiled rendering, gtk+tiled rendering on MIR options

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> - LibreOffice migrated from freedesktop to http://bugs.documentfoundation.org

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> -- thus freedesktop bugzie should have lost 25% of bugs, users and traffic over the weekend. To other freedesktop projects: enjoy your speedup.

 16:00 <Sweet5hark1> - this week: FOSDEM preparations (talks, slides, BoD and employee meetings)

 16:01 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark1

 16:01 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 16:01 <willcooke> Worked on:

 16:01 <willcooke> - Released unity-greeter 14.04.11 (SRU)

 16:01 <willcooke> - Released lightdm 1.13.1

 16:01 <willcooke> - Released simple-scan 3.15.4

 16:01 <willcooke> - Sponsored GNOME updates

 16:01 <willcooke> - Updated Sudoku and Mahjongg to 3.14

 16:01 <willcooke> Currently working on:

 16:01 <willcooke> - Unity Greeter update for vivid (tests are failing on vivid, not on 14.04)

 16:01 <willcooke> - TPM support

 16:01 <willcooke> - Updating Indic font packages

 16:01 <willcooke> #topic themuso

 16:01 <willcooke> * Made a breakthrough WRT bug #1066157. Just got to make the dash work properly with orca when open and closed more than once. Additionally a small bit of work on the Orca side will be needed for Vivid.

 16:01 <willcooke> * Updated pulseaudio to version 5.99.3 in the transitions PPA, ppa:ubuntu-desktop/transitions.

 16:01 <ubot5> bug 1066157 in unity (Ubuntu) "dash +orca does not speak the names of application icons" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066157

 16:01 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 16:02 <willcooke> - system-config-printer: Uploaded and verified fixes of second SRU for Utopic. Now automatic driver download should work again in all situations. Also uploaded a second SRU for Trusty with the same fixes and uploaded the fixes to Vivid and submitted them upstream.

 16:02 <willcooke> - Started discussion on project ideas for Google Summer of Code 2015.

 16:02 <willcooke> - Bugs

 16:02 <willcooke> #topic Any other business

 16:02 <willcooke> It's the start of the annual review process

 16:02 <willcooke> YAY

 16:02 <willcooke> Expect emails and stuff

 16:02 * didrocks got emails, even spam, waiting for stuff

 16:03 <willcooke> I hope you all have a fun time @ FOSDEM

 16:03 <willcooke> See some of you on Sunday/Monday

 16:03 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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