== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Weekly Meeting 2014-12-16, 16 Dec at 15:30 — 16:00 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2014/ubuntu-desktop.2014-12-16-15.30.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== attente_ ===
The discussion about "attente_" started at 15:33.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:35.


=== didrocks ===
The discussion about "didrocks" started at 15:36.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:38.


=== Laney ===
The discussion about "Laney" started at 15:39.


=== larsu ===
The discussion about "larsu" started at 15:40.


=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:44.


=== mlankhorst ===
The discussion about "mlankhorst" started at 15:49.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:53.


=== Sweet5hark ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark" started at 15:54.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:56.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:58.


=== any other business ===
The discussion about "any other business" started at 15:58.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (65)
 * Laney (22)
 * didrocks (19)
 * mlankhorst (17)
 * desrt (12)
 * Sweet5hark (10)
 * qengho (7)
 * larsu (6)
 * FJKong (6)
 * meetingology (3)
 * attente_ (2)
 * ubot5 (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Weekly Meeting 2014-12-16

 15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec 16 15:30:46 2014 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:30 <meetingology> 

 15:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:30 * willcooke is unprepared #

 15:31 <willcooke> please stand by

 15:31 <didrocks> <lift music>

 15:31 * Sweet5hark stands by

 15:32 * Sweet5hark hopes the lift music is creative commons. If the music is bad, at least its properly licensed.

 15:32 <willcooke> Roll call:  attente_ desrt  didrocks FJKong? Laney larsu mlankhorst qengho Sweet5hark tkamppeter

 15:32 <willcooke> I think thats everyone

 15:33 <mlankhorst> hey

 15:33 * qengho is here.

 15:33 <FJKong> hey

 15:33 <willcooke> attente_, are you around?

 15:33 <willcooke> #topic attente_

 15:34 <attente_> backport gdk-mir patches: https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/refresh-mir-backend/+merge/244491

 15:34 <attente_> debugging pointer crossing events

 15:34 <willcooke> good stuff, thanks attente_

 15:35 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:36 <willcooke> he was here a minute ago

 15:36 <willcooke> we can come back around if needs be

 15:36 <willcooke> #topic didrocks

 15:37 <didrocks> hey

 15:37 <didrocks> Ubuntu developer desktop:

 15:37 <didrocks> * Released Ubuntu Make 0.3: http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Ubuntu-Make-0.3-brings-Intellij-IDEA-and-Pycharm-support

 15:37 <didrocks> * Additional fix for the appmenu support in java application, now in archive (but stuck in proposed and some archs FTBFS) and MIR in progress!

 15:37 <didrocks> * Merged intellij and pycharm branches

 15:37 <didrocks> * Fixed medium tests that were failing. Tests are becoming hard to track due to the datacenter still being down for desktop VM tests.

 15:37 <didrocks> * Refreshed docker images

 15:37 <didrocks> Systemd:

 15:37 <didrocks> * Analyzed fsck <-> plymouth integration, as well as looking our ubuntu logo theme. After discussing with Martin, we'll go to more complex solution, but which is acceptable upstream and will remove quite some cruft in our plymouth themes.

 15:37 <didrocks> * Enabled the X fallback.

 15:37 <didrocks> * Some debugging around keyboard issue and logging (which was in syslog after all)

 15:37 <didrocks> Bluez:

 15:37 <didrocks> * Discussed with rsalvetti on the kernel fixes that will be needed for Touch to ensure we won't be blocked on this

 15:37 <didrocks> Mic:

 15:37 <didrocks> * Voted on FOSDEM desktop room talk.

 15:37 <didrocks> * Archive admin and some MIR duties.

 15:37 <didrocks> EOF

 15:37 <mlankhorst> cheers for the fallback-x work

 15:37 <willcooke> woot, thanks didrocks

 15:37 <didrocks> yw ;)

 15:38 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:38 <FJKong> * continue pinyin research

 15:38 <FJKong> * close 2 bugs of sogou input method get ready for new version release

 15:38 <FJKong> * take one day off

 15:38 <FJKong> EOF

 15:38 <willcooke> thanks FJKong

 15:39 <FJKong> yw

 15:39 <willcooke> #topic Laney

 15:39 <Laney> • More work on gtk 3.14, merge .6, merge with Debian, test, ready to go once theme is

 15:39 <Laney> • Update evolution (+ in Debian, although not so relevant there) to not pass -Bsymbolic-functions when linking, can crash otherwise

 15:39 <Laney> • Also update evolution-* to 3.12.9, need to SRU this to 14.10

 15:39 <Laney> • Update vte2.91 + in Debian

 15:39 <Laney> • Update libsoup2.4 + in Debian

 15:39 <Laney> ∘ Test failure and another test hang, upstream both with fix for first, upload w/test disabled :(

 15:39 <Laney> • SRU glib-networking to 14.10

 15:39 <Laney> • Update dpkg to add some Breaks to work around dpkg trigger cycles, track CI for this due to infrastructure downtime

 15:39 <Laney> • Merge new dbus upstream from Debian, thanks MoM

 15:39 <Laney> • DMB: meeting, welcome teward as a new developer

 15:39 <Laney> • Install desktop-next, find out that gtk is broken in mir, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmir/+bug/1401968

 15:39 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1401968 in QtMir "GTK applications don't work anymore under unity8" [Critical,Triaged]

 15:39 <Laney> • Organise travel for fosdem and a sprint afterwards

 15:39 <Laney> • Fix a crash bug in gnome-terminal caused by our transparency patch

 15:39 <Laney> ❀

 15:39 <willcooke> nice

 15:39 <willcooke> thanks Laney

 15:39 <Laney> np

 15:40 <willcooke> #topic larsu

 15:40 <larsu> hey. My cold came back again last week, so I don't have a whole lot to report

 15:40 <larsu> still working on the gtk update and related things (like the theme :( )

 15:41 <willcooke> ack, thx larsu

 15:41 <larsu> sorry for the short one this time :/

 15:41 <Laney> what do you think is left before we can upload?

 15:41 <willcooke> hope the cold goes away, I feel your pain :)

 15:42 <larsu> thanks, it's better this week

 15:42 <larsu> Laney: I have a hang of getting caught up in too many fixes in the theme at once. I'll try to separate the most important bits right after the meeting

 15:43 <Laney> maybe we can just take the branch as-is

 15:43 <Laney> you can keep working on it after that of course

 15:43 <larsu> sure, that works as well

 15:44 <willcooke> cool

 15:44 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:44 <willcooke> back to desrt

 15:44 <desrt> was another big week of kdbus hacking

 15:44 * Laney sees steam rising in front of the window and knows that the heating is now on :D

 15:45 <mlankhorst> and there's a leak?

 15:45 <desrt> i did some substantial reengineering of how that's structured internally, getting rid of quite some hackery that's in there... and kdbus is now working single threaded, and it's able to send and receive messages exactly as you expect for async apps (services and clients)

 15:45 <Laney> why would there be a leak?

 15:45 <mlankhorst> steam!

 15:45 <desrt> unfortunately due to not running the mainloop it deadlocks during sync calls -- but that's totally fine because i wanted to change how that works anyway (to make it much more efficient) so i'm going to do that over the next while

 15:46 <desrt> i also played with schroot and did some work on the sysdeps feature of jhbuild over the weekend -- this will help with jhbuilding inside of buildds, which could be interesting for a lot of reasons

 15:46 <desrt> schroot is cool.  if you are an ubuntu developer who hasn't fully learned about how to use this tool, take some time to learn it.

 15:46 <desrt> it's really really great

 15:46 <desrt> eof

 15:47 <willcooke> thanks desrt

 15:47 <willcooke> I think I will check out schroot too

 15:48 <desrt> if you need some help poke me (or Laney may even be better)

 15:48 <willcooke> could be useful for when I try and build things from source and end up smashing new libs all over the place because I'm too lazy to work out how to do it properly

 15:48 <Laney> ubuntu-dev-tools has a mk-sbuild script to make the chroots

 15:48 <willcooke> niiiiice!

 15:48 <desrt> willcooke: ya... it's awesome for spinning up a system that you can feel free to absolutely destroy

 15:48 <desrt> and then wipe it all away again a few seconds later

 15:48 <desrt> Laney: it's also super-easy to just debootstrap them

 15:48 <willcooke> sounds like I need that in my life

 15:49 <desrt> although i guess you have to do some manual work of building a .tar or whatever

 15:49 <willcooke> better than reinstalling because I'm stupid

 15:49 <willcooke> :)

 15:49 <willcooke> #topic mlankhorst

 15:49 <mlankhorst> - Found a regression in the mesa-lts-utopic backport to trusty, uploaded a fix.

 15:49 <mlankhorst> - Uploaded a new xorg-server to vivid with the security fixes.

 15:49 <mlankhorst> - Prepared xorg-server 1.17 in ppa:canonical-x/x-staging.

 15:50 <mlankhorst> - Rebased standalone Xmir on top of 1.17 and made it work on GLES platforms.

 15:50 <mlankhorst> - Fixed mesa acceleration in Xmir 1.17 just now.

 15:50 <mlankhorst> - Fixed a regression in nouveau.

 15:50 <mlankhorst> ^D

 15:50 <willcooke> mlankhorst, was getting 200+ fps in gears today :)

 15:50 <willcooke> I know it's not a real test :)

 15:50 <willcooke> but I like it

 15:50 <mlankhorst> with -egl? that means that vblank was not working and it was using -sw mode :P

 15:50 <willcooke> yeah, it did look like vblank wasnt working

 15:50 <willcooke> but SPEED :)

 15:51 <mlankhorst> oh try with hw, really..

 15:51 <willcooke> switch ?

 15:51 <willcooke> -hw?

 15:51 <mlankhorst> no just wait a bit

 15:51 <willcooke> always with the waiting :)

 15:51 <qengho> Is that "no hardware"?

 15:51 <mlankhorst> sa19 has fixed the black screen when using mesa

 15:51 <mlankhorst> resizing seems to work correctly too

 15:53 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:53 <qengho> * Nursing. Entrire family has the flu.

 15:53 <qengho> * More work on Mir/Wayland/Ozone/Chromium.

 15:53 <qengho> Installed Desktop Next. Cried a lot. Switched back for now.

 15:53 <willcooke> lol

 15:54 <willcooke> hope everyone is on feeling better soon qengho - sounds like a lot of us are suffering this week

 15:54 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark

 15:54 <qengho> *I* got a wonderful vaccine, I guess.

 15:54 <mlankhorst> willcooke: if you want a better test for acceleration, try https://mblankhorst.nl/etc/glxspheres

 15:54 <qengho> Thanks.

 15:55 <Sweet5hark> * 4.3.5~rc2 created tarballs, will build for PPA and later SRU later todayish

 15:55 <Sweet5hark> * some grinding trough launchpad bugs

 15:55 <Sweet5hark> * I caused a regression upstream, is fixed now, but misses a test: writing that right now

 15:55 <Sweet5hark> * prepare 4.4.0~beta2 prerelease for ppa (twice. some hassle with the tarballs being actually beta1 tarballs, so needed extra tweakage)

 15:55 <Sweet5hark> * some code review,

 15:55 <Sweet5hark> org and the usual syncing upstream (e.g. among other stuff, helped collecting some datapoints on TDFs 2014 annual report at http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport)

 15:55 <Sweet5hark> * havent looked at schroot yet, wonder I should still do, now that I have my own lo-pbuilder wrapper running in a jenkins doing most of the chrooting/setuiding

 15:55 <Sweet5hark> EOF

 15:55 <willcooke> thx Sweet5hark

 15:56 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 15:58 <willcooke> guess tkamppeter isnt around atm

 15:58 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 15:58 <willcooke> Worked on:

 15:58 <willcooke> - Finished gnome-bluetooth patch (awaiting review)

 15:58 <willcooke> - Started on gnome-control-center bluetooth patch

 15:58 <willcooke> - Fixed simple-scan bugs

 15:58 <willcooke> - Released simple-scan 3.15.3

 15:58 <willcooke> - TPM support

 15:58 <willcooke> - Reviewed merge proposals

 15:58 <willcooke> oops

 15:58 <willcooke> Should say:

 15:58 <willcooke> - Started on unity-control-center bluetooth patch

 15:58 <willcooke> #topic any other business

 15:58 <Laney> when's next meeting?

 15:58 <willcooke> For those of you who are going to the Mir sprint please get your travel auth done asap

 15:59 <willcooke> Next meeting will be 6 Jan

 15:59 <willcooke> Oh, and FOSDEM people, travel auth as well please

 15:59 <willcooke> Have an excellent and restful holiday

 15:59 <willcooke> HO HO HO - HAPPY PRIMARY GIFTING PERIOD

 16:00 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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