== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Weekly Meeting 2014-12-02, 02 Dec at 15:31 — 15:54 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2014/ubuntu-desktop.2014-12-02-15.31.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== desrt ===
The discussion about "desrt" started at 15:32.


=== didrocks ===
The discussion about "didrocks" started at 15:36.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:38.


=== larsu ===
The discussion about "larsu" started at 15:39.


=== mlankhorst ===
The discussion about "mlankhorst" started at 15:43.


=== qengho ===
The discussion about "qengho" started at 15:45.


=== seb128 ===
The discussion about "seb128" started at 15:46.


=== Sweet5hark1 ===
The discussion about "Sweet5hark1" started at 15:47.


=== tkamppeter ===
The discussion about "tkamppeter" started at 15:48.


=== robert_ancell ===
The discussion about "robert_ancell" started at 15:50.


=== TheMuso ===
The discussion about "TheMuso" started at 15:50.


=== any other business ===
The discussion about "any other business" started at 15:51.


=== FJKong ===
The discussion about "FJKong" started at 15:53.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * willcooke (65)
 * seb128 (18)
 * Sweet5hark1 (16)
 * didrocks (15)
 * larsu (10)
 * FJKong (9)
 * qengho (7)
 * desrt (7)
 * attente_ (5)
 * tkamppeter (4)
 * meetingology (3)
 * ubot5 (2)



== Full Log ==


 15:31 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Weekly Meeting 2014-12-02

 15:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec  2 15:31:06 2014 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:31 <meetingology> 

 15:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:31 <seb128> willcooke, hey ;-)

 15:31 <willcooke> Roll Call:  attente_, desrt, didrocks, FJKong, larsu, mlankhorst, qengho, seb128, Sweet5hark1, tkamppeter

 15:31 <didrocks> hey

 15:31 <Sweet5hark1> heya

 15:31 <willcooke> Sorry I'm late all, had to do the school run

 15:31 <qengho> dang!

 15:32 <willcooke> attente_, hey, are you ready to roll, or shall we come back to you?

 15:32 <seb128> o/

 15:32 <willcooke> in the interests of brevity, lets come back to attente_ and move on to desrt

 15:32 <willcooke> #topic desrt

 15:33 <attente_> gdk-mir backend:

 15:33 <attente_> some investigation into multiple window apps, need support from mir for surface positioning, might not be available till jan

 15:33 <attente_> fix a bug with text selection

 15:33 <attente_> er. sorry

 15:33 <willcooke> :)

 15:33 <attente_> add a hack for making menus and transient dialogs clickable

 15:33 <willcooke> nw

 15:33 <willcooke> this is great, thanks attente_

 15:34 <willcooke> desrt, you want to go?

 15:35 <desrt> sure

 15:35 <desrt> did a lot of running around, meetings, bug-filing about missing mir features for desktop

 15:35 <desrt> fixed semi-serious GMainContext bug (thanks to ppc64le and Laney for finding it)

 15:35 <desrt> finished off GVariant vector serialisation work (see https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/log/?h=wip/gvariant-kdbus for info)

 15:35 <desrt> still a lot more GVariant work to do to prepare for kdbus -- follow the branch linked above

 15:35 <desrt> starting on internal cleanup of GBytes (GVariant's memory tracking structure)

 15:35 <desrt> (fin)

 15:35 <willcooke> thanks desrt

 15:36 <willcooke> #topic didrocks

 15:36 <didrocks> Ubuntu developer desktop:

 15:36 <didrocks> * Some reviews and fixes for jayatana (appmenu integration for java applications) to be integrated by default on ubuntu. Need upstream to put a last fix and cut a tarball.

 15:36 <didrocks> * Started discussion on pip/rubygem with sudo

 15:36 <didrocks> Bluez:

 15:36 <didrocks> * Put back packages to the transition ppas to have them built on all archs

 15:36 <didrocks> * Tested with Mathieu that bluez5 + pulseaudio integration is working

 15:36 <didrocks> * Started investigating some of the package transitions (bluemon, blueman, …) The good news is that most of them don't need anything!

 15:36 <didrocks> Systemd:

 15:36 <didrocks> * Fix using generators how default DM are handled and have only one started, being or not migrated to systemd

 15:36 <didrocks> * Get previous week patch (for empty machine-id) feedbacks + done some modifications. Waiting for a rereview

 15:36 <didrocks> * Started to look X failsafe handling and possible implementation using systemd services

 15:36 <didrocks> EOF

 15:37 <willcooke> sounds like bluez is moving forwards nicely

 15:37 <willcooke> thanks didrocks

 15:37 <willcooke> didrocks, any idea how many potential names we had for the UDTC ?

 15:37 <willcooke> *have

 15:37 <didrocks> willcooke: I would say like 20-25, I did repost on g+ for the second week of the contest

 15:38 <willcooke> wow - that's really good

 15:38 <didrocks> not a lot of +1 on any name though, we will have to vote ourself I guess :)

 15:38 <willcooke> haha!

 15:38 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:38 <willcooke> FJKong, are you around atm?  We can come back to you if not

 15:38 <FJKong> Dash pinyin progress: coding for converting Chinese character to pinyin

 15:38 <FJKong> tgenerate a mapping table between PinYin and character

 15:38 <FJKong> splite Chinese character (ignoring english words)

 15:38 <FJKong> get all candidate lis

 15:38 <FJKong> all about pinyin thing

 15:38 <FJKong> eof

 15:39 <willcooke> :)

 15:39 <willcooke> nice progress there, thanks

 15:39 <willcooke> #topic larsu

 15:39 <larsu> hey!

 15:40 <larsu> more work on the gtk theme, the blockers should be gone now, but there's still some work left

 15:40 <larsu> (e.g. highlighting the current tab for willcooke ;) )

 15:40 <seb128> do you have a mp up with the current work? do you consider it enough for a first landing?

 15:41 <seb128> (we should get it at least in the ppa with gtk)

 15:41 <larsu> seb128: I want to land it in lockstep with gtk and need to sort out the icon issue before that

 15:41 <seb128> k

 15:41 <larsu> which brings me to that point: I hate the xdg icon spec

 15:41 <seb128> well, we have gtk in the desktop ppa, we can put the theme there as well

 15:41 <seb128> :-/

 15:41 <larsu> a recent gtk change made some svg icons in menus larger (calendar, gvim in the dash)

 15:42 <larsu> seb128: sure, we can do that

 15:42 <seb128> cool

 15:42 <larsu> also fixed an issue in gsettings (no changed events were sent)

 15:42 <willcooke> larsu, that tab highlighting works nicely for gedit but for gnome-terminal I find it confusing - by brain inverts the logic for which is the current tab for some reason.  I'll have a play with colours and such

 15:43 <larsu> willcooke: we could override tabs for each app, but I'd rather not have more app-specific theming

 15:43 <larsu> (fin)

 15:43 <willcooke> larsu, agreed.  I'll have a play and see if I can reach a happy medium

 15:43 <willcooke> #topic mlankhorst

 15:43 <willcooke> mlankhorst, lots of Xmir work this week :)

 15:44 * qengho cheers.

 15:45 <willcooke> hm, mlankhorst must be afk, he was here a moment ago.

 15:45 <willcooke> nevermind, we can come back

 15:45 <willcooke> #topic qengho

 15:45 <qengho> * done: new flash update. new chromium upstream released, but not worth new U package. thanksgiving.

 15:45 <qengho> * in-progress: more Cr/mir hacking. upstream Ozone interface churns *so much*. Angry qengho.

 15:45 <qengho> some hardware problems, too, but you can't help with that.

 15:45 <qengho> EOF

 15:46 <willcooke> qengho, did you see my mail re: Hi DPI - when you get a moment please drop me a reply - but not super urgent

 15:46 <qengho> willcooke: Haven't seen it. Will search.

 15:46 <willcooke> thx

 15:46 <willcooke> #topic seb128

 15:46 <seb128> (4 days week, vac on thurday)

 15:46 <seb128> • discussions about how to handle .desktop renames for dbus activable softwares

 15:46 <seb128> • debugged issues with qtcreator/sdk/ssh/click publishing to the device on vivid

 15:46 <seb128> • spent some time playing with mir/mir_server to get more familiar with that part of the stack

 15:46 <seb128> • spent some time playing with systemd and ran into some bugs

 15:46 <seb128> • ubuntu-system-settings for touch

 15:46 <seb128> ∘ small reviews for others

 15:47 <seb128> • some sponsoring

 15:47 <seb128> • usual share of desktop related bugs triages and discussions

 15:47 <seb128> </week>

 15:47 <willcooke> thanks seb128

 15:47 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark1

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - still work on 4.3.4/4.2.7 SRUs and bugs 1386170, bug 1342175 and the 4.2 Calc sort mess (to many bug ids to list)

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - followed upstream discussion on possible 4.2.8 release

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - finally released first build of 4.4.0~beta1 for vivid to prereleases ppa after much patching and tweaking

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - 4.4.0~beta1 l10n is still FTBFS (not urgent though, betas have incomplete l10n anyway)

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - upstream discussion on baseline/compiler update for more C++11 for LibreOffice 4.5 ff.

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - upstream discussion on folding URE to libreoffice-core

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - some coordination of upcoming LibreOffice events: Hamburg (end December -- 31c3), Brussels (begin February 2015, FOSDEM), Gran Canaria (March), Cambridge (May)

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - clarified REFERENCEOOMAJORMINOR confusion upstream (this is about which version of

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> OpenOffice.org LibreOffice claims to impersonate to extensions)

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - some coordination on LibreOffice mobile(Android) tender (which also enables completing the gtk3 engine, more OpenGL rendering)

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - some considerations on the long-term supportability of LibreOffice 3.5.x on precise

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - refactored some fundamental Writer container class from 1980ies code to pull it screaming and kicking into this century (constness, templateing, typesafety, kill macros)

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - some flu downtime

 15:47 <Sweet5hark1> - running on extrawide productivity now: got myself a 34" 21:9 screen

 15:47 <ubot5> bug 1386170 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Libreoffice startup center shorcut broken" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386170

 15:47 <ubot5> bug 1342175 in LibreOffice Productivity Suite "[upstream] Poor performance with find & replace with empty value on large data set" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342175

 15:48 <willcooke> Sweet5hark1, I'll try and get over to Cambridge for a day in May  - it's just down the road from me

 15:48 <Sweet5hark1> willcooke: awesome!

 15:48 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter

 15:49 <tkamppeter> - OpenPrinting web server: Several fixes in database maintenance scripts

 15:49 <tkamppeter> - system-config-printer: Download mostly working again

 15:49 <tkamppeter> - hplip: HPLIP team is testing IPP-over-USB.

 15:49 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.

 15:49 <willcooke> good news on the driver download, thanks tkamppeter

 15:50 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell

 15:50 <willcooke> Worked on:

 15:50 <willcooke> - Released Unity Greeter 15.04.0, 15.04.1

 15:50 <willcooke> - More code working for TPM support

 15:50 <willcooke> - Started porting gnome-bluetooth to Bluez 5

 15:50 <willcooke> - Updated gnome-calculator to 3.12

 15:50 <willcooke> - Upstreamed gnome-bluetooth patches

 15:50 <willcooke> Currently working on:

 15:50 <willcooke> - TPM support

 15:50 <willcooke> - Bluez 5 support

 15:50 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso

 15:50 <willcooke> * Packaged up Pulseaudio 6.0 RC 1 aka 5.99.1. It was initially uploaded to the Ubuntu desktop team bluez5 PPA, and was moved to the transitions PPA ppa:ubuntu-desktop/transitions.

 15:50 <willcooke> * Also built armhf packages, and they can be found at http://people.canonical.com/~themuso/pulse-5.99-bluez5-armhf/.

 15:50 <willcooke> * Discussed with Debian about where Ubuntu pulseaudio packaging will be hosted going forward, it was agreed to put it in a branch as part of the pkg-pulse alioth team git packaging repo.

 15:50 <willcooke> * Pushed the packaging of 5.99.1 to Debian's git repo as a result of sed discussion.

 15:50 <willcooke> * Upgraded to vivid, no show stopper issues for me personally, will spend some time testing the latest pulse going forward, and plan to package newer RC releases as they are made available.

 15:51 <willcooke> #topic any other business

 15:51 <willcooke> Lots of things in progress right now, but nothing solid to report on, probably will have more details next week

 15:52 <willcooke> mlankhorst, FJKong - are you guys around atm?

 15:53 <FJKong> willcooke: atm?

 15:53 <willcooke> FJKong, you want to give your update?

 15:53 <willcooke> #topic FJKong

 15:53 <FJKong> I already give my update...

 15:54 <willcooke> oh

 15:54 <willcooke> yes

 15:54 <willcooke> of course

 15:54 <FJKong> pinyin thing..

 15:54 * willcooke is having too many simultaneous conversations

 15:54 <willcooke> in which case

 15:54 <willcooke> #endmeeting



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