#title #ubuntu-community-team Meeting

Meeting started by jono at 15:01:20 UTC.  The full logs are available at
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== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' http://askubuntu.com/questions/140740/should-i-use-pyqt-or-pyside-for-a-new-qt-project   (dpm, 15:10:28)
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arb should have that one already  (dholbach, 15:20:30)
''LINK:'' https://juju.ubuntu.com/CharmsProposedProcess   (jcastro, 15:31:58)
''LINK:'' http://jujucharms.com/review-queue   (jcastro, 15:32:09)



Meeting ended at 15:48:03 UTC.



== Votes ==




== Action items ==

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== People present (lines said) ==

 * jono (76)
 * mhall119 (47)
 * dpm (34)
 * balloons (26)
 * jcastro (21)
 * dholbach_ (19)
 * dholbach (16)
 * meetingology (3)
 * MrChrisDruif (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:01:20 <jono> #startmeeting

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 15:01:32 <dpm> hey

 15:01:38 <jono> welcome one and all to the Canonical Community Team meeting!

 15:02:03 <jono> prepare yourselves for a blistering series of summaries of all the hard work going on over the last week

 15:02:08 <jono> first up....

 15:02:36 <jono> ...first he will create your QR code...and then he will create a special place in your heart...

 15:02:38 <jono> ...dpm!

 15:02:42 <dpm> hahaha

 15:02:45 <dholbach> :-)

 15:03:17 <dpm> ok, here we go

 15:03:40 <dpm> • Prepared 12.10 blueprints

 15:03:52 <dpm> • Started reviewing 12.10 blueprint actions with mhall119

 15:04:07 <dpm> • Reviewed 12.10 blueprints with Jono, got them approved

 15:04:22 <dpm> • Spent some time promoting and using AskUbuntu for app development

 15:04:43 <dpm> Quite pleased to see the buzz growing and it becoming a really useful resource for app developers

 15:05:04 <dpm> • Published monthly top 10 app downloads post (http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/05/top-10-ubuntu-app-downloads-for-april-2012/)

 15:05:20 <dpm> • Had a call with dholbach to discuss Packaging Guide translations

 15:05:40 <dpm> • Got toghether Paolo Sammicheli and angeloc to work on a Quickly QtQuick template

 15:05:59 <dpm> • Reminded KenVandine again about writing the social network integration tutorial for d.u.c

 15:06:47 <dpm> sorry, xchat not behaving

 15:07:10 <dpm> • Spent some of my 20% time to work on QRCreator

 15:07:29 <dpm> Happy to see it got reddit'ed even before announcing it :)

 15:07:53 <dpm> and I think that was it for me this week

 15:08:11 <jono> thanks, dpm!

 15:08:17 <jono> any questions for dpm?

 15:09:14 <jcastro> \o/

 15:09:17 <jono> alrighty!

 15:09:19 <dpm> ah, jono, here's a heads up for you

 15:09:26 <jono> oh?

 15:09:38 <dpm> you know we talked about pyside and a quickly template?

 15:09:43 <jono> yup

 15:09:51 <dpm> I'm trying to find out more about it and PyQt

 15:10:00 <jono> ok

 15:10:01 <mhall119> pyside?

 15:10:08 <dpm> so I've just posted this, which will hopefully help giving some insight

 15:10:11 <jono> mhall119, free Python bindings for Qt

 15:10:14 <mhall119> ah, ok

 15:10:28 <dpm> http://askubuntu.com/questions/140740/should-i-use-pyqt-or-pyside-for-a-new-qt-project

 15:10:36 <jono> dpm, cool :-)

 15:10:48 <mhall119> FYI, there was a qt application quickly template submitted some time ago, didrocks said it looked fine as a quickly template, but wanted someone to review it's Qt-correctness

 15:10:51 <dpm> anyway, that was it, I'm trying to get a feel for what the best technology is

 15:10:54 <mhall119> bzoltan was going to review it

 15:11:03 <jono> well the problem with PyQt is that it is not fully free

 15:11:03 <dpm> he did already during UDS

 15:11:06 <mhall119> also it's Qt 4, and we're going to want a Qt 5 template

 15:11:10 <mhall119> dpm: ah, great

 15:11:20 <dpm> (he was quite pleased with it)

 15:11:30 <jono> mhall119, why Qt 5, it is onl in Alpha

 15:12:12 <mhall119> jono: that's wht they want to use for the SDK, evidently it adds a lot of nice things we're going to want

 15:12:13 <jono> ok

 15:12:21 <jono> right

 15:12:30 <jono> alrighty

 15:12:32 <jono> next up!

 15:12:58 <balloons> Qt5 -- uhh, because it's shiny!

 15:13:07 <mhall119> also it has opengl support I think

 15:13:09 <jono> ...prepare for a status update to the soundtrack of alivechicken

 15:13:13 <jono> dholbach!

 15:13:21 * dholbach storms out

 15:13:24 <mhall119> lol

 15:13:25 <jono> lol

 15:14:44 <jono> dholbach?

 15:14:59 <jcastro> he decided to bail

 15:15:14 <jono> lol

 15:15:19 <dpm> :-)

 15:15:19 <dholbach_> how embarrassing

 15:15:21 <dholbach_> I wanted to join right after again

 15:15:25 <dholbach_> but then my router crashed

 15:15:30 <dholbach_> and I had to reboot it

 15:15:30 <jono> dholbach is such premadonna

 15:15:32 <dholbach_> ouch ouch

 15:15:38 <dholbach_> ok, here we go :)

 15:15:41 <jono> :-)

 15:15:50 <dholbach_> in exchange you get a nice soundtrack along with the notes: http://soundcloud.com/stevenmoove/third-degree-cant-get-you-out :)

 15:16:06 <dholbach_> there are some notes in there which are a bit older than last week, I hope I won't bore you

 15:16:20 <dholbach_> ☺ Dev initiatives: announced MOTU meetings, put together list of tasks for first bug fixing initiative, asked for feedback.

 15:16:31 <dholbach_> ☺ Dev Advisory Team: reached out to a number of contributors. Some team organisation discussions (reorganising the trello board, having a meeting, etc.) - watched 5 folks getting upload rights! :-D

 15:16:46 <dholbach_> ☺ Dev News: got out the final 12.04 dev update post. Discussions about new format.

 15:16:55 <dholbach_> ☺ Sponsoring: scheduled the next month of patch piloting.

 15:17:09 <dholbach_> ☺ Dev Docs: blogged about our progress, reviewed a couple of merge proposals - almost ready to get it into the archive. Had a call with dpm about translations.

 15:17:24 <dholbach_> ☺ Community Council: CC meeting, more CoC draft review. Follow-up on RMB restaffing.

 15:17:43 <dholbach_> ☺ 12.10 preparation: UDS! Put blueprints together, all approved, now just minor fixes to the wording.

 15:17:53 <dholbach_> ☺ Apps: call with dpm about ARB priority bugs. Discussions with the MyApps and ARB teams about bug priorities - now we have a good shopping list. Good news: soon all apps in all states can be seen in MyApps again, also we'll get released apps off the list. Talked with David and Michael about related UDS blueprints. Updated and improved https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptRequirement - Filed more blueprints, talked to MyApps and ARB member

 15:17:53 <dholbach_> s about them. Blogged about the importance of apps in Ubuntu. Had a call with James Westby about pkgme and its future in the bigger scheme of things. Had a call with dpm about apps and brought up the idea of having a quick call with mhall119 and dpm every week.

 15:18:31 <dholbach_> ☺ Misc: updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Credits/Developers - upgraded holba.ch server to precise, worked without problems. Reached Inbox Zero before UDS - now things look a tiny little bit worse. Upgraded my sister's laptop - worked without problems. Dug into a problem with upload statistics - fixed it, but decided to port everything to Django database - got the import almost sorted out. Gave 2 Ubuntu

 15:18:32 <dholbach_> Open Week sessions. Helped Yolanda with OpenERP packaging.

 15:18:47 <dholbach> and that's it from me :)

 15:19:01 <balloons> nicely done.. didn't miss a beat even while dc'ing

 15:19:10 <jono> any questions for dholbach?

 15:19:43 <mhall119> should the glade translations issue be added to the /OptRequirement wiki?

 15:19:54 <mhall119> or are we pretty much done regarding that question

 15:20:18 <dholbach> mhall119, dpm and I had a chat and we decided to file bugs on the relevant ubuntu packages and tag them 'arb'

 15:20:23 <mhall119> ok

 15:20:30 <dholbach> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arb should have that one already

 15:20:47 <dholbach> or, hum - maybe it doesn't

 15:20:52 <dpm> actually, it hasn't, I filed it for upstream gtk

 15:21:04 <dholbach> ok

 15:21:09 <mhall119> ugh, is quickly still using python central?

 15:21:20 <dpm> not sure

 15:21:31 * mhall119 spies 2 bugs for that still

 15:21:50 <mhall119> or, one bug listed twice, which is weird in and of itself

 15:22:02 <dholbach> LP lists bug tasks

 15:22:09 <mhall119> oh, different packages, I see

 15:22:13 <dpm> I think the summary is that we should work with the quickly hackers to get the tools in shape and the fixes SRU'd

 15:22:22 <jono> agreed

 15:22:23 <mhall119> +1

 15:22:29 <mhall119> now if only we had quickly hackers

 15:22:38 <jono> lets find some :-)

 15:22:39 <dpm> we can work on that

 15:22:42 <dpm> yeah :)

 15:22:43 <mhall119> +2

 15:22:45 <mhall119> :)

 15:22:50 <dholbach> :-)

 15:23:01 <jono> any more questions for dholbach?

 15:23:37 <jono> alrighty!

 15:23:40 <jono> next up...

 15:23:55 <jono> ...if it runs, it will run in the Ubuntu Software Center because of this guy....

 15:23:59 <jono> ...mhall119!

 15:24:25 <mhall119> installs through the software center

 15:24:27 <mhall119> :)

 15:24:33 <mhall119> Blueprints cleaning and review with dpm and jono

 15:24:37 <MrChrisDruif> Inceptional

 15:24:46 <mhall119> 58 work items, a little more than 2 per week, should keep me busy for a while

 15:25:02 <mhall119> Working with TV community to get contributions started

 15:25:31 <mhall119> I'm really excited to see the Canonical and Community teams working together on this

 15:25:39 <mhall119> Working with TV community to get contributions started

 15:25:51 <mhall119> 820 and climbing!

 15:26:00 <mhall119> whoops, copy/paste fail

 15:26:08 <mhall119> Building up my Ask Ubuntu karma by cleaning up and answering questions

 15:26:11 <mhall119> 820 and climbing!

 15:26:29 <mhall119> Added Radio and Checkbox menu items to Hello Unity quicklists

 15:26:45 <mhall119> ^^ spurred on by needing an answer to one of those AU questions

 15:26:56 <mhall119> (didn't even know you could do this with quicklists)

 15:27:03 <mhall119> More work on django_juju side project to generate charms for Django sites

 15:27:16 <mhall119> working on getting my LXC setup working so I can test it

 15:27:26 <mhall119> jcastro: you're going to like this once it's working :)

 15:27:31 <jono> nice

 15:27:41 <mhall119> Followup with ScottL and Oren about Vudu next steps

 15:27:56 <mhall119> Followup with Forums Council about new App Developer forum

 15:28:09 <mhall119> meeting tomorrow evening to discuss their questions and concerns

 15:28:22 <mhall119> Added CLI arguments and static Quicklist to dpm's qreator

 15:28:29 * mhall119 ends

 15:28:31 <dpm> \o/

 15:28:36 <dpm> that was awesome

 15:28:44 <mhall119> qreator is awesome

 15:28:51 <jono> thanks mhall119

 15:28:54 <jono> any questions for mhall119?

 15:30:27 <jono> ok

 15:30:29 <jono> thnaks mhall119!

 15:30:32 <jono> next up...

 15:30:59 <jono> ...he will leave no stone un-charmed...prepare for war...it is jcastro!

 15:31:01 <jcastro> \m/     WELCOME TO MY STATUS REPORT!!!!     \m/

 15:31:12 <jcastro> today's report brought to you by RUSH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I2gmT3rarY

 15:31:31 <jcastro> - Blueprints, review is today, so I will have my finalized items

 15:31:43 <jcastro> - Redoing the charm process as we started off with 34(!) things to review

 15:31:48 <jcastro> - Stole Daniel's work:

 15:31:58 <jcastro> https://juju.ubuntu.com/CharmsProposedProcess

 15:32:09 <jcastro> http://jujucharms.com/review-queue

 15:32:22 <jcastro> We started the day with 34 items

 15:32:23 <dholbach> nice work!

 15:32:31 <jcastro> and then I tested it and broke it, there are like 10 missing things

 15:32:40 <jcastro> but that's fine, we'll sort it.

 15:32:56 <jcastro> along with proposing that: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/2012-May/001637.html

 15:33:16 <jcastro> - I am working on some Charm Store governance: https://juju.ubuntu.com/CharmStoreCouncil

 15:33:20 <jcastro> not yet proposed though

 15:33:35 <jcastro> - Coming up this week: Event review with Robbie/MSM: https://juju.ubuntu.com/Events

 15:34:00 <jcastro> so that's basically the week, boostrapping the new review processes so we can start working on the queue

 15:34:02 <jcastro> questions?

 15:34:11 <jono> any questions for jcastro?

 15:34:23 <dholbach> jcastro, are you also setting up a pilot schedule on gcal or do you do something cleverer?

 15:34:45 <jcastro> nope

 15:34:54 <jcastro> exact stealing from you, so a pilot cal

 15:34:59 <dholbach> ah ok, cool

 15:35:03 <dholbach> let me know if you improve it somehow ;-)

 15:35:07 <jcastro> <3

 15:35:30 <jono> alright

 15:35:32 <jono> next up...

 15:35:54 <jono> ...if it crashes...he will kill it...balloons!

 15:36:11 <balloons> YESH!

 15:36:14 * mhall119 makes a mental note to drive carefully when balloons is around

 15:36:25 <jono> always

 15:36:36 <balloons> alrighty, so brain dump time

 15:36:55 <balloons> In keeping with the theme of the week I was preparing, scheming and planning for 12.10

 15:37:07 <balloons> * Recruiting mhall119 and dpm to help review my blueprints and give advice (thanks guys!)

 15:37:19 <dpm> my pleasure :)

 15:37:21 <balloons> * Bug jono about said blueprints

 15:37:28 <balloons> * Have jono also bug me about said blueprints :-)

 15:37:34 <balloons> * (Pending not too distant future, crossing fingers) Have jono approve my blueprints

 15:37:47 <balloons> * Meet with gema, kate, stephane and joe to discuss and move forward with the isotracker testcae management blueprint. Discuss new UI details, walkthrough use cases and review current progress on development site.

 15:38:16 <balloons> * checked out hexr (which is a hardware database with a web frontend), as part of research to deploy a public instance. Followed up with pgraner and scheduled time with jk to talk further about technologies used

 15:39:13 <balloons> * Spoke with U+1 team about adopting ubuntu friendly as a resource for hardware information, specifically utilizing it for focused testing within there team for help and support

 15:39:24 <balloons> * Spoke with ev about whoopsie, discussed how it might integrate with QA, agreed to publicize errors.ubuntu.com. Planning to blog about details with how whoopsie works

 15:39:40 <balloons> * Had a day off and went to my college roomate's wedding :-)

 15:40:01 <balloons> * Blogged post about high level plans for cycle from blueprints and UDS ;-) And pictures!

 15:40:38 <balloons> * Created a wiki page about me in preparation for ubuntu membership! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/balloons

 15:40:55 <mhall119> \o/

 15:40:56 * dholbach will add comments to it!

 15:41:03 <balloons> ;-)

 15:41:13 <balloons> all comments are appreciated

 15:41:40 <balloons> hopefully, I can get on the schedule for June once the boards are back in place

 15:42:10 <balloons> and that's it from me

 15:42:11 <jono> June?

 15:42:22 <jono> is that the next meeting?

 15:42:25 <balloons> yes, I believe they will be starting again in June

 15:42:25 <dholbach> jono, we're restaffing/reorganising the RMBs

 15:42:32 <jono> ahhh yes

 15:42:38 <balloons> so yes, the next meeting

 15:42:41 <jono> cool

 15:43:05 <jono> anything else balloons?

 15:43:15 <balloons> nope, that be all

 15:43:20 <balloons> methinks

 15:43:20 <jono> thanks balloons

 15:43:24 <jono> any questions for balloons?

 15:44:24 <jono> alirghty!

 15:44:35 <jono> well, I will wrap this up

 15:44:45 <jono> * Mainly spent the week catching up with the post-UDS email and meetings. Nice to be at home as opposed to running around a conference venue like a madman.

 15:44:49 <jono> * Team:

 15:44:55 <jono> - Worked with the team to get their 12.10 blueprints in place.

 15:45:02 <jono> - Nearly everyone's is completed now - will be blogging about it soon.

 15:45:09 <jono> - Completed all of the performance review meetings.

 15:45:16 <jono> - Started coordinating some travel arrangements around various events.

 15:45:23 <jono> * QA:

 15:45:30 <jono> - Spent some time discussing QA stakeholder requirements.

 15:45:37 <jono> - In 12.10 we will primarily be focusing on (1) ISO testing, and (2) special experiences (e.g. running a later kernel on 12.04).

 15:45:45 <jono> - Discussed with balloons how we can develop a process for planning and coordinating this work.

 15:45:50 <jono> * Consumer Apps:

 15:45:57 <jono> - Started flashing out a planning document for getting flash games in the Ubuntu Software Center - gathered input from Consumer Apps, Legal, and elsewhere.

 15:46:05 <jono> - Further promo of the EA games.

 15:46:11 <jono> - Started discussing with Consumer Apps about another exciting prospect coming to the USC.

 15:46:17 <jono> * Ubuntu Accomplishments:

 15:46:23 <jono> - Lots of hacking in the evening this week, see http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/05/22/heading-towards-0-2/ for details.

 15:46:28 <jono> - Local accomplishments are running now, which means apps can trigger trophies - see the video demo at http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GDxpqX4Szl0

 15:46:32 <jono> any questions for me?

 15:46:53 <dpm> no questions here

 15:47:08 <dholbach> I think I'm all set

 15:47:14 * mhall119 is good

 15:47:16 <balloons> are we still planning the move to #ubuntu-meeting for this meeting?

 15:47:43 <mhall119> the meeting we just finished?

 15:47:56 <balloons> I haven't seen a # endmeeting yet ;-)

 15:48:02 <jono> :-)

 15:48:03 <jono> #endmeeting



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