#title #ubuntu-community-team Meeting Meeting started by jono at 15:00:27 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-04-24-15.00.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek (jcastro, 15:25:12) Meeting ended at 16:00:50 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * jono (95) * mhall119 (55) * dpm (46) * jcastro (34) * balloons (27) * dholbach (25) * jussi (10) * cprofitt (6) * bkerensa (4) * meetingology (3) * daker (2) * technoviking (1) == Full Log == 15:00:27 #startmeeting 15:00:28 Meeting started Tue Apr 24 15:00:27 2012 UTC. The chair is jono. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:00:28 15:00:28 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 15:00:38 Welcome one and all to the Canonical Community Team meeting! 15:00:50 a place where you can find the latest goings on in this venerable team 15:01:18 prepare for a collection of status updates from this cacophony of wide eyed bandits 15:01:35 first up...a man who rejects the idea that "there are enough developers" 15:01:37 ...dholbach! 15:01:47 hello! :) 15:01:54 ☺ Dev Advisory Team: Continued review and improvements to the report of feedback we got from new contributors. Andrew mailed it out, I blogged it. Started to get in touch with contributors who mentioned docs as a shortcoming, to ask them to help identify and fix specific issues. 15:02:06 ☺ Dev News: Got another dev update out, this time's highlight: getting last-minute fixes in. 15:02:18 ☺ Sponsoring: Got some eyes on the sponsoring queue to make a decision about the items in there and figure out if we want to have them for 12.04 or 12.10. Current count: 50 items. Produced list of folks who didn't patch pilot. Had my patch pilot shift today as well. 15:02:28 err Current count: 33 15:02:37 ☺ Dev Infrastructure: fixed bugs in Harvest API - it was never used much, so there were quite a few things which had to be brushed up to make it truly useful. Worked on Dev Opportunities Lens, and got a first cut ready to work, now working on introducing categories/scope functionality. 15:03:03 ☺ CC: set up CC Trello - no more agenda writing, less note-taking - YAY. Posted new version of CoC to get more feedback from everyone - will be discussed in next CC meeting. Had some followup discussions. CC meeting with the ARB. 15:03:13 ☺ 12.10 preparation: some small edits and refinement to 12.10 plans. Filed blueprints. 15:03:36 ☺ Apps: Had a call with dpm, jono and mhall119 about getting apps into Ubuntu. Call with mvo about /opt requirement for ARB apps. Prepared https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptRequirement - talked to several TB members about the topic. Sumarised meeting with CC/ARB. Had a chat with Michael Nelson about myApps priorities, discussed some specific bug fixes. Had several more phone calls with Michael Vogt about different ways to do app review 15:03:36 s in the future. 15:03:53 ☺ Misc: Helped some more with packaging the accomplishments bits. Helped jedimike with some django packaging. Did a server test install, which will become my Q devel vm - worked perfectly. 15:04:04 That's it from me. 15:04:15 * dpm hugs dholbach 15:04:26 * dholbach hugs dpm back :) 15:04:38 any questions for dholbach? 15:04:43 I'm looking forward to working with dpm some more in Q :) 15:04:55 dholbach: is MyApps open to community contributions?/ 15:05:01 \o/ 15:05:04 mhall119, no 15:05:10 mhall119, you mean as others could review apps as well? 15:05:11 this is one area we need to fix 15:05:18 dholbach: I mean for adding features 15:05:21 oh I assumed you mean open source 15:05:22 ah no 15:05:23 to MyApps itself 15:05:28 not AFAIK 15:05:34 I talked to davidpitkin about focusing on this in the 13.04 cycle 15:05:34 I can ask noodles about it 15:05:46 for 12.10 we will request changes to their team 15:06:21 dholbach, so I would like to ask you to prepare a blueprint that summarizes all required MyApps changes 15:06:32 that we can present to David Pitkin for review after UDS 15:06:40 ok 15:06:54 importantly, we should only request changes that we are confident will bring a real and practical impact to the ARB 15:07:02 yes 15:07:10 thanks 15:07:18 any other questions? 15:07:29 \o/ 15:07:50 alrighty 15:07:52 next up... 15:08:12 ...you don't know this yet, but you are about to write a new app for Ubuntu...and he will make it happen... 15:08:13 ...dpm! 15:08:29 hey everyone! 15:08:38 so here we go 15:08:51 App Developers 15:08:52 15:09:15 • Discussed app developer 12.10 strategy with jono and mhall119 15:09:28 • Finished off 12.10 app developer strategy with mhall119 15:09:45 • Had chats and did some research with dholbach about the /opt packaging requirement for ARB apps 15:10:01 • Reviewed, edited and published davidc3's tutorial on creating a unity lens for the Wikipedia 15:10:31 • Wrote and published monthly top 10 apps blog post 15:10:59 • Rearranged the d.u.c. tutorials section to be the "App developer cookbook" after a conversation with jono. It's on http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/app-developer-cookbook/all-recipes/ 15:11:22 • Started working on a form to facilitate sending tutorials 15:12:05 • Participated in the CC/ARB meeting 15:12:13 15:12:18 Translators 15:12:19 15:12:39 A crazy week it was 15:12:53 as it was the translations deadline 15:13:20 • Spent quite a lot of time fixing Kubuntu translation templates in Launchpad due to a bug in the packaging 15:13:37 • Discussed final language pack schedule with pitti 15:13:55 • Ubuntu 12.04 Simplified Chinese translation: 15:14:14 ∘ Discussed and arranged the schedule for the final language pack containing the final translations 15:14:36 ∘ Set up the final translation to be prioritized and uploaded in time for the deadline in Launchpad 15:14:50 • Created final version of the 12.04 translations contributors list for the release notes credits section 15:15:02 • Helped the Web Design team updating translations for the Ubuntu Online Tour and the extended tour 15:15:18 ∘ http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/12.04/zh-CN/ 15:15:31 ∘ http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/extended-tour/zh-CN/ 15:15:44 • Helped jbicha with the multilingual help.ubuntu.com setup 15:15:47 15:15:49 Other 15:15:50 15:16:11 • Had some spare time one evening last week and set up the Ubuntu Code of Conduct for translations 15:16:26 and that was all from me 15:17:19 any questions for dpm? 15:18:06 the cookbook section looks much nicer 15:18:09 +1 dpm 15:18:25 * dholbach hugs dpm 15:18:25 glad you like it :) 15:18:33 now we need more recipes! 15:18:46 thank you for not calling them charms 15:18:46 and app devs to join the cooking fest 15:18:52 or candystix or somesuch 15:18:52 hahaha 15:18:55 will there be a flavours section if people will populate it? 15:18:59 :-) 15:19:01 dpm: we should probably make a note of which language the tutorials use 15:19:50 mhall119, yeah, that's a good idea. We need to think how to record this kind of info. I was thinking of tags and categories, but by default it seems WP pages don't use tags or categories 15:20:04 or will things more relatd to other DE's just go straight in? 15:20:09 for posts it does, maybe not pages 15:20:38 yes, that's what I meant, pages don't support them 15:20:53 jussi: things for other DE will probably be linked to in the "elsewhere on the web" sections 15:21:01 k 15:21:12 alrighty 15:21:14 next up! 15:21:25 dpm: we can probably just group them on the page, we can brainstorm after the meeting 15:21:28 ...a man with a bad case of the Juju... 15:21:31 ...jcastro! 15:21:38 WOO! 15:21:43 # Welcome to my Weekly Report 15:21:43 This week's report brought to you by Iron Maiden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP2EjZ5lKkA 15:21:48 Short week as I was travelling last week. 15:21:54 ## OpenStack Conference 15:22:01 - Mark demoed Bare metal to deployed OpenStack. This takes about _12 minutes_. We also announced full OpenStack backports for their next 4 releases back to 12.04. Great show that is growing very quickly. 15:22:08 - Did a charm school with Clint, about ~50 people. Clint nailed it, best charm school we've had so far. 2 hours of questions and demos! 15:22:16 - Clint finished the SPDY charm, deploy it today! http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/04/17/want-to-mess-with-spdy-easily-come-experiment-with-it-via-juju/ 15:22:21 ## Todo/Doing this week 15:22:28 I am going to UDS a week early so I am on a time crunch! Main problem is I haven't been getting enough volunteers for OpenWeek, any help here would be appreciated! 15:22:40 - IS says they should be able to fix the forums SSO problem on Wednesday. <-- s-fox 15:22:40 - Put the plenaries on the schedule (they are scheduled just not on the sched) 15:22:40 - Schedule blueprints for myself, coordinate juju ones with team. 15:22:47 - Calxeda and Dell demos for UDS 15:22:53 - Say "marbles" at the end of this report if you're paying attention. 15:22:53 - Other plenary follow up with derivatives, other presenters, etc. 15:22:53 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek is behind, I need help getting people to do sessions; unfortunately mhall, balloons, and I will be at OAK. Any help here would be appreciated! 15:22:58 - All the stuff on my next/inprogress (see link below) 15:23:03 ## Other 15:23:12 cjohnston: you should do a session on summit and remote participation 15:23:19 - I am in UDS mode all next week, if you need something done, this is the week to bug me about it, next week I am in the land of magical juju charms and candy canes. 15:23:19 - My Trello breakdown: http://strapello.com/user/jorgecastro 15:23:19 STATUS REPORT ALL THE THINGS, Questions? 15:23:28 marbles 15:23:37 :) 15:23:42 :) 15:24:01 well at least somebody way ;) 15:24:02 marbles :-P 15:24:04 was 15:24:16 any questions for jcastro? 15:24:51 jcastro: how much is missing from the open week stuff? 15:24:59 and what exactly needs doing 15:25:12 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek 15:25:17 7 open sessions 15:25:19 I need 7 more sessions/instructors 15:27:37 ok, no more questions? 15:27:42 oh wait! 15:27:54 hey so I've put out like 3 calls for instructors, ideas for more? 15:28:11 I'm kind of becoming a desperate begging mess. :) 15:28:13 jcastro: Im just attempting to get someone 15:28:20 jcastro: voluntell ! 15:28:31 rawk, I'll go whine to devel one more time I think and voluntell people 15:28:31 cjohnston: do a UOW session or I won't review any more summit MPs 15:28:37 :) 15:29:00 daker: would you be willing to run a session about loco team portal, how to use it, etc? 15:29:32 ma 15:29:46 mhall119, ok ツ when ? 15:30:00 daker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek has the schedule 15:30:03 any time that's open 15:30:49 jcastro: next time, let's not schedule this during the design sprint :) 15:31:04 morning all 15:31:10 pleia pointed out there's a missing week this time 15:31:14 hi technoviking 15:31:31 ok lets move along 15:31:36 next up... 15:31:45 ...quality is something that defines this guy... 15:31:49 ...balloons! 15:31:56 :-) 15:32:01 the intros never get old 15:32:31 :-) 15:32:44 just so you know jcastro QA is by far the most exciting thing going on this week :) 15:32:51 indeed! 15:33:10 Met with QA team to review the cycle and reflect on positives and negatives. Did a bit of self-reflection on what testing processes went well and what didn't. I'm happy to hear feedback on your experiences with the calls for testing, manual app testing, iso testing, or any other testing imitative we had this cycle. 15:33:38 Talked with elopio from ubuntu one about moztrap, played around with his test instance. 15:34:18 Kicked off adopting an iso. The goal was to promote iso testing for this last bit of precise. Over 100 folks responded and agreed to do their best in helping test. This has been amazing. 15:35:01 Fun fact -- I sent and recieved over 200 emails in 24 hours on the iso testing subject. Talking to everyone was a blast ;-) I'm glad I decided to go the email route -- I hope it was enjoyable getting a live connection to a person instead of just a wiki page 15:35:13 If you haven't / weren't able to help with iso testing, remember there will be more opportunities to get involved next cycle. 15:35:38 Looking at the top testers report, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/testers, we see several new faces in the top ten, and 96 different iso testers. This is a testament to those that stepped up and volunteered for iso testing. 15:36:09 Blueprints and UDS planning has been in full swing. On the QA side we have several great conversations for UDS surrounding our tool adoption and strategy going forward, as well as continuing to reach new people and grow our QA community. 15:36:59 Made plans to buy a new system so I can test more/better next cycle. (new hardware, yummy!) Yes all of you testers with multiple systems and big screens out there made me jealous, lol. 15:37:35 :-) 15:37:42 Also recruiting volunteers for a QA session or two during open week. Heading to UDS early with jcastro and mhall119. I have the ideas, if you don't know what to speak about :-) 15:38:40 .. 15:40:22 crickets... 15:40:27 * balloons wonders if he dc'd 15:40:33 we didn't know you were done 15:40:43 ".." is release team meeting speak for "I'm done" 15:40:54 yeah you need to say you are done balloons 15:40:57 mhall119, that's always an easy answer, lol 15:40:59 we are not mind readers :-) 15:41:02 I'm never done 15:41:13 haha 15:41:14 sorry :-) 15:41:19 alrighty 15:41:21 I will take questions tho 15:41:22 any questions for balloons? 15:41:26 hehe 15:41:51 with the email thing, did you have to keep everybody in the loop with what everyone else was doing? 15:41:56 or was that not really a concern 15:42:28 mhall119, no the iso tracker handled that piece.. but it was handy to speak directly to everyone about what was going on with the iso's and what the focus should be each day, etc 15:42:34 like, for my blogs on quicklists and keywords, I had people leave comments about which app they were working on, to avoid duplication of effort 15:42:40 ah, ok 15:42:43 yea 15:42:55 plus I assigned them an iso, based upon what they said they would/could test 15:43:16 that I think worked out very well 15:43:22 jcastro, sorry, MARBLES!!! 15:43:34 haha :) 15:43:35 we got excellent coverage that way, where we traditionally don't since everyone tests the more popular iso's 15:43:44 dpm: just now? 15:44:01 :-) 15:44:08 alrighty 15:44:10 next up! 15:44:20 I was being pinged by somebody else and was in another conversation :) 15:44:45 ...a man swimming upstream and make them rock and roll in Ubuntu...this guy will make your software experience in Ubuntu 12.10 a good time for everyone involved... 15:44:49 ...mhall119! 15:44:57 :) 15:45:05 * Brainstorming improvements for App developers for the 12.10 cycl 15:45:24 if you've noticed a theme, you're right! We're going to make Ubuntu rock for app developers 15:45:41 * Refactored developer portal Unity docs to make them more prominent and accessible: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/ 15:46:08 I'll be monitoring the traffic to see where we can improve getting people to the useful information 15:46:38 but we've already seen a slight increase in people looking at the Unity docs, and even more so the API pages, thanks in part to... 15:46:45 * Added API documentation pages for both 11.04 and 12.04: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/platform/api/ 15:47:13 so we now cover every version of Ubuntu that shipped with Unity as default 15:47:30 * Got with jbicha and bkerensa to collect documentation contributors for the 12.04 cycle 15:47:35 thanks again bkerensa 15:47:47 * Defined my objectives for the 12.10 cycle 15:47:57 very, very excited about what we're going to be doing in the next 6 months 15:48:11 * Started tracking upstreams to bring into USC 15:48:23 * Blogged about Ubuntu for App Developers 15:48:41 got a lot of traffic from that one, people are *definitely* interested in our app developer story 15:48:49 bring it! 15:48:52 * Helped cjohnston with some enhancements to summit.ubuntu.com 15:49:10 Track leads will now be able to create, approve and schedule meetings for their tracks! 15:49:34 * Finished and Published the new Unity contributor documentation: http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/ 15:49:59 :-) 15:50:01 my gimp-fu is getting pretty good after all those screenshots and banners 15:50:09 heh 15:50:17 * Got Precise main and universe packages added to screenshots.debian.net 15:50:41 And finally 15:50:43 * Added sound menu example to hello-unity: http://ubuntuone.com/2usdghRU9SfugPYMOqZHqA 15:50:54 * mhall119 is done 15:50:59 I've said it repeatedly, but I love the new API pages 15:51:04 :) 15:51:09 cool on the sound menu :-) 15:51:12 * dpm is also excited about 12.10 and app developers 15:51:20 dpm, totally :-) 15:51:34 any questions for mhall119? 15:51:38 mhall119: no problem.... Still hoping for sumo in help.ubuntu.com ;p 15:52:03 bkerensa: yup, on my list to do 15:52:23 bkerensa, can you help lead that project? 15:52:44 bkerensa, mhall119 is going to be bery busy in 12.10, so help coordinating the sumo implementation for help.u.c would be great 15:52:48 bkerensa: what is up with help.ubuntu.com? 15:53:27 cprofitt: just evaluating alternatives to moinmoin 15:53:37 ah,... cool 15:53:38 jono: I would have to confer with mdke and jbicha but yeah that is something I am interested in Q 15:53:52 bkerensa, cool, could you check into it and let us know? 15:53:59 jono: yep will do 15:54:00 I know some of the forum guys are working on adding content so perhaps some of them might be interested in helping too 15:54:01 I am sure mhall119 can help support this work 15:54:03 bodhi_zazen: ping 15:54:08 but we really need someone else to drive it 15:54:25 alrighty... 15:54:31 cprofitt: Yeah I am the Forums Council's Doc Team Contact guy I guess 15:54:40 bkerensa: cool!! 15:54:42 I will go last I guess... 15:54:53 cprofitt: we can discuss in #ubuntu-doc if you want 15:55:03 shorter week this week due to a week of conference work 15:55:05 * cprofitt nods 15:55:08 * Team: 15:55:13 - Things are looking good as we wrap up the 12.04 cycle. 15:55:18 * 12.10 Planning: 15:55:25 - Lots of discussion with each of the guys about their respective plans. 15:55:31 - Reviewed plans with other key stakeholders. 15:55:35 - The 12.10 plan is now finalized. 15:55:43 * UDS: 15:55:49 - Scheduling is going ahead. 15:55:54 - Coordinating various partner and sponsor requirements. 15:55:59 - Coordinating the social events. 15:56:03 * App Review Board: 15:56:08 - Summarized various areas of focus for ARB optimization. 15:56:13 - Working with the team to start focusing on these different areas and track our work there. 15:56:18 * OpenStack Conference: 15:56:25 - The majority of the week I was at the OpenStack Summit and Conference in San Francisco. 15:56:29 - sabdfl gave a fantastic keynote, and the entire team worked well in delivering it reliably and on time. 15:56:36 - Lots of other good discussions last week about our focus and strategy, and building good partner relationships. 15:56:41 * Catching Up: 15:56:46 - Back to work yesterday after a week at the conference and catching up with email and calls. 15:56:51 * Ubuntu Accomplishments: 15:56:55 - Working towards the 0.1 release. 15:57:11 - We now have working packages and are getting our PPA in shape. 15:57:16 - Our next step is fixing all remaining 0.1 bugs at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-accomplishments/+milestone/0.1 15:57:20 and that is it from me 15:57:22 any questions? 15:57:39 how's the unity integration going for accomplishments? 15:58:03 mhall119, it is done, we have Launcher integration and a hi-res icon 15:58:15 the Launcher shows the number of new verified accomplishments 15:58:24 I am not sure what other integration we will need 15:58:27 cool 15:58:27 probably quicklists 15:58:34 but that will be a 0.2 feature 15:58:38 * mhall119 will work on a quicklist example for hello-unity 15:58:46 that would be really handy 15:59:00 hello-unity is what made Unity integration happen in Ubuntu Accomplishments :-) 15:59:07 :) 15:59:13 any other questions, folks? 16:00:09 no questions here 16:00:14 not I 16:00:21 I'm good 16:00:42 alrighty 16:00:46 lets wrap it! 16:00:48 thanks, folks! 16:00:50 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)