14:59:35 <jono> #startmeeting 14:59:35 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 3 14:59:35 2012 UTC. The chair is jono. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:59:35 <meetingology> 14:59:35 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 14:59:47 <jono> Welcome one and all to the Canonical Community Team meeting! 15:00:04 <jono> get your popcorn, grab a comfortable chair, and prepare for statustastic status updates 15:00:18 <jono> in a break from tradition I am going to go first 15:00:24 <jono> as mine is very short 15:00:24 * mhall119 gets his coffee 15:00:40 * jcastro 's is also short 15:00:48 <dholbach> where's this Piña Colada I ordered 10 minutes ago? 15:00:49 <jono> I was on vacation for two weeks in Italy and while I did check in and reply to email, I don't have a significant amount of status to report 15:01:02 <jono> I am primarily kicking off 12.10 planning 15:01:06 <jono> and catching up with email 15:01:13 <jono> alrighty, next up.... 15:01:15 <jono> ...a man... 15:01:18 <jono> ...a legend... 15:01:28 <jono> ...a saddening taste in music... 15:01:32 <jono> ...dholbach! 15:01:39 <dpm> \o/ 15:01:49 <dholbach> Mandatory sound track of this update (and a good chance for Jono to practise his French for future speaking engagements): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdaAHMztNVE#! 15:01:50 <jono> :-) 15:01:58 <jono> LOL 15:02:08 <dholbach> ☺ Dev initiatives: Organised User Testing for the Ubuntu Development process. Discussed it with various people. Put a team together (huats, andrewsb and bregma) and announced it. Up until not too much feedback - relaunch during 12.10. 15:02:27 <dholbach> ☺ Dev Advisory Team: added more information to d-a-t overview pages (number of uploads, time of involvement). Team discussions and planning about refining our process. Added a list of 'Experienced contributors' to our Trello to make our process a bit more fine-grained. Triaged dozens of great people into all kinds of lists. Added new contributors to the list. Improved team lists to make good new contributors easier to spot. Starte 15:02:28 <dholbach> d putting together a report with the feedback of new 15:02:34 <dholbach> contributors - this will be food for thought before UDS. 15:02:46 <dholbach> (oops - too much d-a-t activity it seems :)) 15:03:10 <dholbach> ☺ Dev News: Got out another two updates. Discussed some future plans. 15:03:30 <dholbach> ☺ Sponsoring: set up 1glance-sponsoring page, blogged to get more eyes on the sponsoring queue again. Massaged Alexander Fougner's HTML fixes into the 1glance-sponsoring page - now it looks pretty. Did a patch pilot shift. Planned next four weeks of patch piloting. Mailed Canonical engineering managers about missed pilot shifts. 15:03:46 <dholbach> ☺ Dev Docs: merged a number of fixes, continued discussion about i18n, contributed a small fix for it - uploaded, now we have translatable docs, backported some stuff, so we can build packaging docs as well for older versions of Ubuntu. Set up a Trello to help with moving old wiki docs to the new packaging guide. 15:04:05 <dholbach> ☺ Dev Infrastructure: fixed a critical bug in Harvest, got a new release out. Phew! 15:04:23 <dholbach> ☺ CC: Review of new Teams wiki page, discussions about CoC 2.0. Need to prod everyone again to get the discussion going again. 15:04:41 <dholbach> ☺ Misc: helped the ISD team with OpenERP packaging questions. Helped Kate put together a list of contributors to this release. Various UDS Sponsoring bits. Upgraded test machine to 12.04 - went smoothly. Helped debug a compiz/unity problem. Helped balloons with packaging of checkbox-app-testing-qt. Filled out performance reviews. 15:04:53 <dholbach> ☺ 12.10 preparation: Confirmed UDS travel plans - did ESTA dance. Started putting together 12.10 objectives. 15:05:01 <dholbach> Done. 15:06:55 <dholbach> Hello... *tap tap tap* ... is this thing on? 15:06:58 <mhall119> dholbach: translatable dev docs? 15:07:08 <jono> thanks dholbach 15:07:34 <jono> next up... 15:07:39 <dholbach> mhall119, yes - sphinx recently got i18n support - it took a bit for us to integrate it, but http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ (and the other formats) now translatable 15:07:51 <dholbach> ...are... 15:07:57 <jono> ...the indescribable man described as jcastro... 15:08:22 <jcastro> \o/ 15:08:24 <jcastro> hey everyone 15:08:27 <jcastro> short status this week 15:08:32 <jcastro> as I was at a conference all last week 15:08:46 <jcastro> - At POSSCON with marcoceppi, hosted by jbicha, did a juju talk and a charm school, it was pretty fun. Felt like ~600ish people attended the show. 15:08:51 <jcastro> ## Juju 15:09:00 <jcastro> - Charm Contest closed, processing applicants, we'll hopefully get through them all this week and in the store. We ended up with about ~15 entries. 15:09:06 <jcastro> - Charm Store is online, juju no longer difficult to use. Blogging about this today. 15:09:10 <jcastro> ^^ this last one is huge 15:09:17 <jcastro> but you'll see in the blog post. :) 15:09:22 <jcastro> ## Other stuff 15:09:27 <jcastro> - UDS Crew stuff is out. 15:09:32 <jcastro> - OpenWeek Planning begins, waiting on Mark's schedule, then I can announce. 15:09:37 <jcastro> - Here's what I am working on, if it's not on this list and it should be ping me: http://strapello.com/user/jorgecastro 15:09:53 <jcastro> and that's it, the TLDR is "get the charm store submission queue to zero, go go go." 15:09:57 <jcastro> questions? 15:10:26 <mhall119> tell us about the wordpress-omg charm 15:10:48 <jcastro> it's still OMG specific 15:10:53 <jcastro> after we get the contest out of the way 15:11:03 <jcastro> we will backport those features to the generic "wordpress" charm. 15:11:22 <jcastro> but we've already learned stuff, brandon has a similar "drupal" supercharged one already in the review queue 15:11:36 <mhall119> what's been joey's reponse to using it? 15:11:39 <jcastro> right now reviewers are getting the contest ones finished up and into the store though 15:11:50 <jcastro> it's working pretty great, there was one bug yesterday when the instance ran out of disk 15:12:01 <jcastro> because the charm was saving nginx cache to the local disk instead of EBS 15:12:02 <mhall119> out of disk? 15:12:04 <jcastro> fixed in the charm though 15:12:06 <mhall119> oh 15:12:13 <jcastro> yeah, instances only come with X amount of space 15:12:24 <jcastro> when you put the cache on EBS it just grows according to what you pay 15:12:30 <mhall119> ok 15:12:39 <mhall119> that's a lotta caching though 15:12:40 <jcastro> other than that, we're redeploying OMG to smalls on his account today, then just waiting for DNS 15:13:24 <mhall119> it's going to be interesting to see how it copes with the release announcement 15:13:28 <jcastro> but yeah, we likely need to set a limit for cache 15:13:31 <jcastro> it should be fine 15:13:34 <jono> cool 15:13:46 <jcastro> it's not even breaking a sweat right now, with 2 more instances it should be quick 15:13:53 <jono> thanks jcastro 15:13:58 <jono> alrighty, next up... 15:14:07 <jono> ...respect him, and you could be like him...dpm! 15:14:20 <dpm> lol 15:15:08 <dpm> ok, here we go, I've got no specific dates on the notes, so some of this stuff might be from a couple of weeks ago, where we didn't hold the meeting 15:15:29 <dpm> Translations 15:15:43 <dpm> * Created a thank you page with a list of 12.04 translation contributors on http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/translator-credits.html 15:15:56 <dpm> * Filed a bunch of i18n bugs, commented on many others, especially user interface exceptions 15:16:26 <dpm> * Chaired translations meeting, started more dynamically adding actions to a board (see next point) 15:16:47 <dpm> Started using a Trello board, it's working great for the translations team - https://trello.com/board/translations-team/4f621c87861db54230b9ca39 15:17:09 <dpm> * Helped coordinating (read had extensive discussions) the Simplified Chinese desktop translation project with the Chinese community and the PES team at Canonical 15:17:23 <dpm> * The latter also meant coordinating with the docs team and release team to extend the string freeze deadline for ubuntu-docs (which are also covered by this project) 15:17:40 <dpm> * Spent some 20% time setting up a server with localized documentation , updated daily with LP translations to help translators: http://91.189.93.101 (Canonistack seems to be down again) 15:18:17 <dpm> "localized documentation" means translations for the ubuntu-docs package 15:18:25 <dpm> 15:18:36 <dpm> App Development 15:19:15 <dpm> * Worked with mhall119 to finish and publish the Unity app developer documentation on d.u.c. Had some more follow-up calls about Unity docs 15:19:25 <dpm> * Posted top 10 apps March blog post 15:19:44 <dpm> * Started working on UADW organization, but I'm quite a bit behind :/ 15:19:56 <dpm> * Call with dpitkin and zoopster to discuss the featured Software Centre apps for next month 15:20:08 <dpm> * Started reviewing davidcalle's tutorial on creating a Unity Lens (haven't finished yet) 15:20:10 <dpm> 15:20:18 <dpm> Administrivia 15:20:27 <dpm> * Finished UDS booking 15:20:36 <dpm> * Finished perf review 15:20:42 <dpm> And that was me 15:21:11 <jono> thanks dpm 15:21:13 <jono> any questions? 15:21:43 <mhall119> dpm: I've reviewd david's tutorial and made a couple edits, otherwise it's got a +1 from me 15:22:21 <dpm> cool, in that case we can probably publish it already 15:23:14 <jono> cool 15:23:22 <jono> alrighty 15:23:35 <jono> next up...he beckons the angels to serve his QA... 15:23:36 <dholbach> dpm, let's chat about UADW later on a bit 15:23:41 <jono> ...respect him... 15:23:43 <jono> ...be him... 15:23:47 <jono> ...want to be him... 15:23:51 <jono> ...for he is... 15:23:55 <jono> ...balloons! 15:24:04 <dpm> (ok, thanks dholbach) 15:24:14 <balloons> pop? 15:24:20 <jono> lol 15:24:55 <balloons> ok.. 15:25:29 <balloons> Discussed Release QA Proposal with qa community, going to finalize and start on action plans 15:26:13 <balloons> Worked on checkbox migration to qt for Beta2 Manual App Testing 15:26:45 <balloons> got help from some folks on this.. thank you dholbach, kaldor, roadmr.. others I'm forgetting.. ohh roginac :) 15:27:33 <balloons> It's been a somewhat bumpy ride migrating to qt, so let me know if anyone is having trouble running the tests 15:27:48 <balloons> I'll be updating the ppa as time goes on this week 15:27:59 <balloons> at some point, we'll close the window before rc 15:28:33 <balloons> as a qa community, we helped the installer team with the Ubiquity installer sprint 15:29:16 <balloons> check out http://pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-installer-sprint -- 28 bugs closed 15:29:37 <balloons> We also did beta2 iso testing -- thanks to all the testers! 15:29:46 <balloons> 66 testers and 850ish test runs! very nice coverage 15:30:33 <balloons> discussed with the qa team what qa needs are needed for the new ubuntu glasses -- I'm still waiting for mine from fedex 15:30:53 <dholbach> :) 15:30:55 <mhall119> balloons: they'll blow your mind 15:31:03 <balloons> :-) 15:31:06 <jono> lol 15:31:06 <mhall119> literally, that's a powerful battery 15:31:36 <jono> anything else balloons? 15:31:38 <jcastro> I want the battery on the left. 15:31:45 <mhall119> jcastro: never! 15:31:49 <dholbach> balloons, do you still have any issues with the packaging and package build? 15:31:57 <balloons> Finally, worked with the u+1 team leads to discuss future plans and how they fit into the community; discussed the idea of having test days, recaps on how the testing has gone this cycle 15:32:19 <balloons> I will hopefully be posting a summary of my thoughts on the cycle and the future for 12.10 before UDS :-) 15:32:21 <balloons> .. 15:32:35 <balloons> dholbach, umm.. I actually made a new issue yes 15:32:44 <dholbach> ok, I'll have a look in a bit 15:32:53 <balloons> lol.. I had solved everything, but I did break something last night 15:33:17 <balloons> k 15:33:21 <balloons> let me push the latest 15:33:56 <balloons> that's it from me 15:34:24 <jono> thanks balloons 15:34:31 <jono> ...finally... 15:34:38 <mhall119> Ubuntu Glasses was a pretty cool 4/1 joke 15:34:42 <jono> ...no application is safe from his quicklists... 15:34:57 <jono> ...you don't know it yet, but he is getting you involved in Unity....mhall119! 15:35:06 * mhall119 wonders if jono pre-writes these intros, or if he just wings it 15:35:20 * jono wings it 15:35:20 <jono> :-) 15:35:23 <mhall119> * Booked travel for UDS-Q 15:35:38 <mhall119> * Uploaded coding style guide for unity to unity.ubuntu.com 15:35:40 <mhall119> ** Needs better XSLT output to match the site 15:36:01 <mhall119> right now it's just a WP upload, I'd like to get it better itegrated with the rest of the dics 15:36:13 <mhall119> * Upload fixes to Singlet and quickly-unity-lens-template 15:36:31 <mhall119> the last of the build/install/uninstall commands were removed from Singlet, they're all in the quickly template now 15:36:45 <mhall119> making Singlet strictly a run-time library 15:36:56 <mhall119> * ARB has been working on new music scopes for Oneiric 15:37:21 <mhall119> there were some issue with getting one of them running, but I think 2 or 3 were approved, all from Mark Tully 15:37:29 <mhall119> * ARB has begun accepting submissions (for lenses/scopes anyway) for Precise 15:37:58 <mhall119> Oneric lenses and scopes will be updated by the ARB, mark and david will both start submitting their Precise-only lenses/scopes to the ARB 15:38:14 <mhall119> I will also be making the necessary fixes to the dictionary and community lenses for Precise inclusion 15:38:37 <mhall119> * Finally figured out my cloud instance problems, sadly there is no cure 15:39:03 <mhall119> will be re-deploying a SUMO test instance on Amazon's cloud this week 15:39:20 <mhall119> * Blogged about getting SVG icons for improved application integration 15:39:38 <mhall119> not nearly as much of a response to the call for graphics as I got for Quicklists and Keywords 15:40:00 <mhall119> I think we need to discuss what we can do to foster the artists in the community 15:40:04 <mhall119> perhaps at UDS 15:40:26 <mhall119> * Helped cjohnston and m_3 work on the Summit juju charm 15:40:58 <mhall119> some other big improvements are comming to summit.u.c for UDS-Q, thanks to the persistance of cjohnston 15:41:21 <mhall119> * Developed script to extract contributor metrics from unity bzr branches 15:41:37 <mhall119> results can be seen at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/unity-stats/#commit_stats 15:41:59 <mhall119> * Refactored unity-stats code to be more easily re-used by other projects 15:42:09 <mhall119> * Started experimenting with django-based metrics gathering 15:42:09 <mhall119> ** Ported 3 graphs from unity-stats for testing 15:42:39 <mhall119> * Updated screenshots on unity.ubuntu.com 15:42:54 <mhall119> they were from 11.04 15:43:06 <mhall119> * Published new Unity app developer docs with dpm 15:43:11 <mhall119> \o/ 15:43:19 <mhall119> * Reviewed Unity Lens with Singlet+Quickly tutorial by davidcalle 15:43:24 <jono> :-) 15:43:26 <mhall119> * Help sort out new docs freeze schedule 15:43:40 <mhall119> * Hello Unity! 15:43:40 <mhall119> ** Developed showcase application for Unity integration 15:43:40 <mhall119> ** Blogged and screencasted 15:43:40 <mhall119> ** Tested effectiveness of developer.u.c docs, identified areas for improvement 15:43:43 <mhall119> ** Packaging has begun, planning to submit to ARB for 12.04 15:44:12 <mhall119> * Work on lots of new Unity development docs 15:44:12 <mhall119> ** Design pages done 15:44:12 <mhall119> ** Development pages mostly done 15:44:12 <mhall119> ** Started rounding up docs for testing and translations 15:44:33 <mhall119> * Updated beta2 release notes with links 15:44:36 * mhall119 is done 15:44:40 <dholbach> mhall119, does "Singlet strictly a run-time library" mean that code changes in your singlet project automatically reflect in the UI? 15:45:10 <mhall119> dholbach: I meant that it's not used to bootstrap new lens projects, it uses quickly for that now 15:45:12 <jono> thanks mhall119! 15:45:21 <dholbach> ahhh ok 15:45:22 <dholbach> thanks 15:45:23 <mhall119> dholbach: so it's only used to run lenses 15:45:36 <dholbach> ok great - I might have more questions about that tomorrow :) 15:45:53 <mhall119> but yet, improvements to Singlet will be reflected in any Singlet lens or scope on update 15:46:00 <mhall119> s/yet/yes/ 15:46:11 <jono> alrighty 15:46:13 <dholbach> cool 15:46:16 <jono> let's wrap it 15:46:19 <jono> thanks everyone! 15:46:22 <jono> #endmeeting