#title #ubuntu-community-team Meeting

Meeting started by jono at 15:01:01 UTC.  The full logs are available at
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== Meeting summary ==




Meeting ended at 15:44:19 UTC.



== Votes ==




== Action items ==

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== People present (lines said) ==

 * jono (103)
 * jcastro (44)
 * mhall119 (38)
 * dholbach (24)
 * balloons (20)
 * cprofitt (7)
 * czajkowski (6)
 * meetingology (3)
 * nigelb (1)
 * ubot2` (1)
 * technoviking (1)



== Full Log ==


 15:01:01 <jono> #startmeeting

 15:01:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 13 15:01:01 2012 UTC.  The chair is jono. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 15:01:13 <jcastro> let's do dis

 15:01:15 <jono> welcome one and all to the Canonical Community Team meeting!

 15:01:33 <mhall119> ready

 15:01:35 <jono> unfortunately our brother in wiki pages dpm won't be joining us today as he is off work

 15:01:51 <jono> so, let's get this baby on the road

 15:01:57 <jono> ...first up...

 15:02:14 <jono> ...a man few understand, but all cherish....dholbach!

 15:02:23 <dholbach> buenos días!

 15:02:35 <dholbach> ☺ Dev initiatives: announced G+ Hangouts for Thursday. Held hangout sessions, very refreshing. Put together list of simple tasks for Fix-It Friday - had a great Friday. Put together a plan for "User Testing for Ubuntu Development", wrote announce, discussed with Jono, set up IMAP box for team, reached out to a couple of folks who might be interested, about to mail Ubuntu Developers.

 15:03:02 <dholbach> (I'm really excited about the User Testing!)

 15:03:10 <dholbach> ☺ Dev Advisory Team: put some automatic lists for the team together. Experiments with Trello API are ongoing. Awesome work by Andrew SB to put tasks to Trello board super easily. Mailed lots of contributors. Marcin Juskiewicz became MOTU. Adam Gandelman and Björn Michaelsen are up for the next DMB meeting.

 15:03:39 <dholbach> Dev Advisory Team Comments of the week:

 15:03:44 <dholbach> - "Ubuntu is my passion and I like to work on it in my free time, after the school. I'm happy to fix the user problems... I don't know why but I like this :P"

 15:03:52 <dholbach> - "Generally my experience has been very positive.  Once I decided to work on the Ubuntu version of the resolvconf package I quickly came into contact with the involved Ubuntu developers.  I found them very cooperative and effective.  Ubuntu is well equipped.  I have no suggestions for improvement."

 15:04:02 <dholbach> - "everything is meticulously documented which makes life easier for new contributors. "

 15:04:12 <dholbach> - "I think the most positive part of the experience to date has been the realization that the Ubuntu community cares enough to engage in this kind of feedback solicitation. That is simply unparalleled in other projects, and a testament to the many solid reasons so many prefer Ubuntu."

 15:04:23 <jono> :-)

 15:04:24 <dholbach> ☺ Sponsoring: Planned next month of sponsoring. Put a bit of work in simplification of Sponsoring Overview Code.

 15:04:31 <dholbach> ☺ Dev News: Got another update out.

 15:04:37 <dholbach> ☺ Dev Docs: Discussions about i18n of Packaging Guide.

 15:04:44 <dholbach> ☺ Admin: filed expenses, planned travel to UDS.

 15:04:49 <dholbach> ☺ CC: worked on new revision of Code of Conduct.

 15:04:57 <dholbach> That's it.

 15:05:07 <technoviking> jcastro: I will re-check that in admincp

 15:05:08 <cprofitt> the revision looks good too!

 15:05:21 <dholbach> cprofitt, yeah, probably just a bit more polish and we're all set :)

 15:05:42 <mhall119> dholbach: got akgraner using bzr now too :)

 15:05:53 <balloons> dholbach, love the quotes

 15:05:56 <dholbach> ah, thanks for your help then, mhall119!

 15:06:02 <jono> technoviking, hey, we are in a meeting right now

 15:06:05 <mhall119> dholbach: I didn't do anything

 15:06:08 <dholbach> balloons, yeah - the d-a-t is simply the most uplifting thing I work on this cycle :)

 15:06:09 <jono> can you discuss that in PM?

 15:06:12 <jono> thanks dholbach!

 15:06:25 <mhall119> dholbach: +1, it's always nice to hear people happy with what we're doing

 15:06:55 <jono> always wonderful to hear about positive community experiences

 15:07:04 <jono> any more questions for dholbach?

 15:07:16 <jcastro> dholbau5! \o/

 15:07:27 <dholbach> that's it! I'm moving to Mint!

 15:07:28 <jono> lol

 15:07:37 <jono> ...alrighty! next up....

 15:07:41 <mhall119> ha

 15:08:01 <jono> ...a man proven wrong multiple times about his Metallica and Megadeth viewpoints by a handsome Englishman....jcastro!

 15:08:17 <jcastro> \o/

 15:08:24 <jcastro> Welcome to my weekly report.

 15:08:24 <jcastro> This week brought to you by Hemispheres: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAZXGjoQTzw

 15:08:24 <jcastro> (Like this status report, an epic tale of the heart and mind)

 15:08:30 <jcastro> <br>

 15:08:38 <jcastro> ## Updated/New Charms

 15:08:38 <jcastro> - Minecraft updates

 15:08:46 <jcastro> - Owncloud needs to be moved to mysql and updated (Marco's on this)

 15:08:52 <jcastro> - Cassandra updated

 15:08:57 <jcastro> - A bunch of Openstack Charm updates (too many to list)

 15:09:07 <jcastro> ^^ epic server team work involved in all openstack work

 15:09:13 <jcastro> - Juan's submitted gearman

 15:09:18 <jcastro> - bkerensa's working on Subway IRC (awwww yeah!)

 15:09:29 <jcastro> Subway is a slick IRC client in nodejs and uses mongo

 15:09:32 <jcastro> so it'll be a cool charm

 15:09:38 <jcastro> - Marco's finishing up Redmine

 15:09:45 <jcastro> - A bunch of boolean fixes due to changes in trunk, don't panic!

 15:09:51 <jcastro> - Charm School yesterday in Santa Clara, waiting for the feedback, also waiting on the feedback from the webinar so I can follow up with people.

 15:09:57 <jcastro> - Still waiting on the charm store and constraints (Yargh!)

 15:10:03 <jcastro> ok that's it for juju

 15:10:12 <jcastro> ## Other

 15:10:19 <jcastro> - Forums 4.x testing upgrade actually worked, need to nail down schedule for production upgrade.

 15:10:26 <jcastro> - Summit hosting for Plumbers done, just needed an account to charge it to, we should be handing this off RSN. Thanks m_3 and cjohnston!

 15:10:35 <jcastro> - Chasing down a wireless bug with my kernel, the experience has been fun. The kernel guy posts debs, I test them, report back, really awesome: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/937118

 15:10:36 <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 937118 in linux "Wireless stops passing packets" [High,Confirmed]

 15:10:44 <jcastro> - Mailed agent but he can't book our tickets yet, says he's waiting for the signal from Marianna?

 15:10:50 <jcastro> - Am I not doing something you would like to see done? Check out my trello boards: http://strapello.com/user/jorgecastro

 15:10:56 <jcastro> - It would be nice if I started doing openweek planning this week, slacker.

 15:10:59 <jcastro> Questions?

 15:11:01 <jcastro> complaints?

 15:11:06 <jcastro> shower of gifts?

 15:11:19 <mhall119> yay summit charm!

 15:11:22 * balloons slects gifts

 15:11:36 <dholbach> your 18m08s song is still playing :-P

 15:11:45 <jono> any questions for jcastro?

 15:11:45 <jcastro> It's epic

 15:11:59 <balloons> if no one has had the "jcastro" experience with devs, bugs and ubuntu I recommend it

 15:11:59 <mhall119> jcastro: you ended right as the lyrics on your song started, did you plan it that way?

 15:12:02 <balloons> it's awesome

 15:12:11 <balloons> +1 for ubuntu community

 15:12:15 <jcastro> it's a rush song, it's supposed to be like a 20 minute intro

 15:12:35 <mhall119> I'll be honest, this is the first time I've played your background track,  it really does add to the bullets :)

 15:12:42 <jono> hah

 15:12:48 <jono> is it the Benny Hill music?

 15:12:49 <jono> :-)

 15:12:58 <jcastro> Net boy

 15:12:59 <jcastro> Net girl

 15:13:04 <jono> :-)

 15:13:10 <jono> ...alrighty! next up....

 15:13:41 <jono> ...no bug is safe, so checkbox test cannot be written...balloons!

 15:13:58 <balloons> hehe

 15:14:20 <balloons> I have been prepping (mentally!) for being a track lead at UDS Q. If your interested in QA and ubuntu, this is going to be the track for you. There are many plans and items to discuss and our future direction is very much on the table. If you can, plan to attend remotely or physically :-)

 15:14:46 <mhall119> or both

 15:14:56 <balloons> In addition, my future self is already looking forward to the new ubuntu swag and seeing everyone again (in a non-cold environment)

 15:15:06 <balloons> mhall119, ^^ ohh

 15:15:53 <balloons> Started looking at http://results-tracker.ubuntu.com/ to parse the beta1 tests results. Completed a proof of concept to grab your avatar if you submitted tests :-) Still learning launchpad api, and working on the counts from beta1. Expect to see a blog post this week following up. Additionally, looking to expand on the data we can view inside the tracker.

 15:16:23 <balloons> Working on case conductor again with the ubuntu-one team. Ran into some roadblocks with the source code, as well as the server we attempted to deploy on. The Case conductor code should be stabilized and released at the end of march / early april so we are still on schedule for having a stable build ready when the code is complete.

 15:17:06 <balloons> I updated the wiki and wrote new pages outlining the testing strategy for the rest of the precise cycle. This includes writeups on asking for testing from a developer perspective, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/CallforTesting, as well as a user perspective.

 15:17:18 * balloons is glad his IRC client has spellcheck

 15:17:41 <balloons> Began process of migrating the checkbox app testing to checkbox-qt. Looking to add in automagical bug reporting when a test is recorded as failing among other niceties. There is still time to get your application tests in for beta2, so merge requests are always accepted ;-)

 15:18:13 <balloons> spelling niceties.. hmm, still looks off.. niceties.. fun word

 15:19:19 <balloons> I revisited my survey of the ubuntu qa landscape, and played with a cool new tool someone shared with me.. Let me find the link...

 15:19:52 <balloons> Check it out if your into Qa tools: http://sikuli.org/.. Thoughts on how it might help ubuntu QA are welcome.

 15:20:37 <jono> Sikuli is awesome

 15:21:16 <balloons> yes it is very cool.. and very oriented to the common user

 15:22:05 <balloons> you can automate tasks using make sense to you as a human, and have the computer give you feedback.. Very graphical and intitutive

 15:22:12 <balloons> and that is it for balloons

 15:23:44 <jono> alright!

 15:23:49 <jono> any questions for balloons?

 15:24:11 <jcastro> \o/

 15:25:00 <jono> ok

 15:25:04 <jono> ...next up....

 15:25:29 <jono> ...one way or another, you are contributing to Unity if this guy gets his way....mhall119!

 15:25:35 <mhall119> lol

 15:25:36 <jcastro> heh

 15:25:41 <mhall119> it's funny because it's true

 15:25:45 <jono> :-)

 15:25:52 <dholbach> :)

 15:26:01 <nigelb> yeah, he joined another network to help someone to fix something in unity.

 15:26:08 <mhall119> I have a short list this week, but I promise I've been hard at work (except Friday)

 15:26:17 <jono> a likely story

 15:26:20 <jono> :-)

 15:26:20 <mhall119> * graphics design lens has passed moderation using the ARB's new process after some fine-tuning, more scopes are in-queue, and more to come

 15:26:49 <mhall119> it hasn't landed in USC yet, it's now in the "QA queue", but it was voted on and approved

 15:27:07 <mhall119> hopefully future scopes/lenses won't take quite so long

 15:27:20 <mhall119> * quickly-unity-lens-template landed in universe!!!

 15:27:34 <jono> woo!

 15:27:39 <dholbach> nice

 15:27:46 <mhall119> I'll be writing another step-by-step tutorial for writing lenses/scopes for Precise, then look out!

 15:28:01 <mhall119> * gathered, wrote, edited, formatted developer documentation for Unity integration

 15:28:17 <mhall119> ^^ this took up the bulk of my time this week, but we're 99% done now

 15:28:29 <mhall119> hopefully they will go live this week when dpm gets back

 15:28:50 <mhall119> I also have a new-found respect for anybody who produces technical documentation for us

 15:29:14 <mhall119> and a new-found disrespect for the answer "just read the header file"

 15:29:20 <mhall119> :(

 15:29:33 <czajkowski> mhall119: http://www.dexy.it/  for all your documentation needs :)

 15:29:39 <mhall119> * edit-patch fixes landed in Precise *and* Debian

 15:29:46 <dholbach> :-D

 15:30:14 <mhall119> czajkowski: will it write the content for me?

 15:30:15 <jono> czajkowski, unfortunately Dexy won't write our docs for us :-)

 15:30:23 <jono> hah, great minds :-)

 15:30:31 <jono> or, sarcastic minds :-)

 15:30:40 <mhall119> edit-patch fix is my first actual submission to Debian to get accepted

 15:30:55 <mhall119> jono: it's a fine line between greatness and sarcasm

 15:31:06 <jono> :-)

 15:31:11 <mhall119> * blogged instructions for converting bzr MPs into package patches

 15:31:28 <mhall119> will be following up with the submitted branches that haven't landed yet to see about getting them converted

 15:31:38 <czajkowski> mhall119: it will do a lot of the automation of it expecially if you are taking scren captures and adding in code :)

 15:32:23 <mhall119> we've had several quicklist and keywords branches land in Precise already

 15:32:38 <mhall119> I got an email the other day from one of the contributors saying:

 15:32:40 <mhall119> "But I am attaching a pic of the update manager showing the update I made. I was so happy to see it! Thanks for your help/ "

 15:32:49 <mhall119> made my day :)

 15:33:12 <jono> nice! :-)

 15:33:19 <mhall119> * Spent Friday at LegoLand with my son, I'm thinking it's time to start playing with the Mindstorm stuff

 15:33:39 <jono> czajkowski, the challenge with the docs not around the formatting really, just getting some human-readable docs written

 15:33:57 <jono> and getting the necessary information from DX :-)

 15:34:00 <jcastro> man dude, that's a short week?

 15:34:03 <czajkowski> jono: fair enough was just letting folks know it;s a useful tool.

 15:34:12 <jono> thanks czajkowski

 15:34:28 <czajkowski> jcastro: czajkowski@sheldon:~$ man dude

 15:34:28 <czajkowski> No manual entry for dude

 15:34:35 <mhall119> lol

 15:34:41 <mhall119> he does say "man dude" a lot

 15:34:49 <jono> mhall119, all done?

 15:34:52 <mhall119> yup

 15:34:59 <jono> any questions for mhall119?

 15:35:18 <jcastro> that's a bunch of good work dude

 15:35:21 <jcastro> high five!

 15:35:25 <jono> man dude

 15:35:27 <jono> awesome

 15:35:27 <mhall119> ^5

 15:35:28 <jono> :-)

 15:35:39 <jono> alrighty, I guess I am up next

 15:35:49 <jono> * General:

 15:35:53 <jono> * Burndown looking good everything looking on track: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html

 15:36:01 <jono> * I am taking some time off for a few weeks from Monday; I won't be on IRC, but have occassional access to email.

 15:36:12 <jono> * Started making preliminary plans around 12.10; will start coordination with the team in a few weeks.

 15:36:19 <jono> * Developers:

 15:36:23 <jono> * Working with dholbach to help structure the Developer Advisory Board and how it moves developers through the system.

 15:36:31 <jono> * Identifying ways to improve sponsorship.

 15:36:36 <jono> * QA:

 15:36:41 <jono> * Building prep for Beta2 testing.

 15:36:47 <jono> * Assessed the requirements around core-component testing.

 15:36:53 <jono> * App Devs:

 15:37:01 <jono> * Unity docs now online. This has now unblocked further Unity app dev outreach for Michael.

 15:37:08 <jono> * Started building plans with dpm around "social development" and connecting app development with elements of the Ubuntu culture.

 15:37:13 <jono> * Upstreams:

 15:37:19 <jono> * Getting our Unity developer documentation in shape.

 15:37:25 <jono> * Planning next strategic steps: namely, hi-res icons, indicators, and ensuring Quicklists can be deployed in Ubuntu.

 15:37:29 <jono> * JuJu:

 15:37:42 <jono> * Coordinating how Plumbers can use Summit and Juju for their event.

 15:37:51 <jono> * Updated stakeholders.

 15:37:56 <jono> * LoCo Teams:

 15:38:01 <jono> * Putting some plans in place for Ubuntu Release Parties.

 15:38:06 <jono> * Started noting down some 12.10 strategy around LoCo Teams.

 15:38:12 <jono> * Ubuntu Accomplishments:

 15:38:19 <jono> * Web Editor project now in full swing. A nice development team is forming there.

 15:38:30 <jono> * Fixed a number of bugs, improved look and feel, added performance improvements, added bubbles to show when accomplishments are unlocked.

 15:38:38 <jono> * Improved our documentation at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments

 15:38:42 <jono> * UDS:

 15:38:48 <jono> * Finalized track leads.

 15:38:52 <jono> * Sponsorship went out.

 15:38:58 <jono> * Handling some commercial sponsorship requirements.

 15:39:02 <jono> * Other:

 15:39:07 <jono> * Contributing a test script and data to get a rather ugly Twisted bug fixed. Thanks to dobey!

 15:39:13 <jono> * Reporting various other 12.04 issues.

 15:39:20 <jono> * Coordinating UDS and pre-UDS sprint travel for the team.

 15:39:34 <jono> * Coordinated UDS and pre-UDS sprint travel for the team.

 15:39:44 <jono> * Continued work around 'I Make UBuntu' idea.

 15:39:50 <jono> * Planning various travel requirements.

 15:39:55 <jono> * Meeting with Prentice Hall about the Official Ubuntu Book and elements of it's release.

 15:40:00 <jono> * Various CanoniStack issues.

 15:40:02 <jono> and that is me

 15:40:05 <jono> any questions?

 15:40:06 <jcastro> (Pro tip: juju is "juju" or "Juju" but never camel cased "JuJu". This post brought to you by the committee for branding consistency.)

 15:40:19 * jono cares

 15:40:20 <jono> :-)

 15:40:32 <jono> any questions?

 15:40:33 <jcastro> committee for Jane nitpick prevention. :)

 15:40:38 <jono> lol

 15:40:42 <cprofitt> jono: Loco Team 2010 -- what types of planning?

 15:40:52 <cprofitt> strategy I mean

 15:41:20 <jono> cprofitt, my thinking is around build further LoCo leadership, continued social expansion of loco.ubuntu.com

 15:41:25 <jono> and continued event planning

 15:41:39 <jono> I still think our LoCo Community leads more leadership

 15:41:47 <jono> s/leads/needs

 15:41:55 <jono> and we need to empower more leaders

 15:42:22 <jono> any other questions?

 15:42:31 <cprofitt> +1 jono

 15:42:41 <jono> cprofitt, would love to talk with more with you about this

 15:42:51 <jono> I think there is some great opportunity out there

 15:42:53 <cprofitt> there is a person trying to build something called Ubuntu Street Team that we should talk about...

 15:42:59 <cprofitt> yes, lets talk at some point

 15:43:11 <jcastro> I saw the street team post but didn't investigate

 15:43:53 <jono> cprofitt, cool

 15:44:01 <jono> ok, so it looks like we are done

 15:44:05 <jono> thanks everyone for joining us!

 15:44:11 <dholbach> thanks everyone :)

 15:44:11 <cprofitt> jcastro: its an interesting concept, but needs some 'steering' to avoid conflicts.

 15:44:19 <czajkowski> jono: got time for a quick pm/call ?

 15:44:19 <jono> #endmeeting



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