#title #ubuntu-community-team Meeting Meeting started by jono at 16:01:18 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-02-28-16.01.log.html . == Meeting summary == Meeting ended at 16:53:53 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * jono (94) * mhall119 (55) * dpm (46) * balloons (45) * jcastro (42) * dholbach (24) * meetingology (3) * pangolin (2) * ahayzen (2) * s-fox (2) * daker (1) == Full Log == 16:01:18 #startmeeting 16:01:18 Meeting started Tue Feb 28 16:01:18 2012 UTC. The chair is jono. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:01:18 16:01:18 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:01:22 alrighty, folks! 16:01:37 welcome to the weekly Canonical Community Team meeting!@ 16:01:51 we will run through some status updates and everyone is welcome to ask questions 16:02:16 lets kick off with...the man that other men want to be...mhall! 16:02:24 mhall119, you are up :-) 16:02:41 oh, how did I get to be first? 16:02:55 ok, here we go 16:03:03 * Reached out again to Asian LoCo teams, up to 5 regional events now (up from zero last cycle, and 2 a year ago) 16:03:17 wha wha 16:03:19 lol 16:03:31 it looks like we're doing better in Asia, Oceana and Africa 16:03:38 it's Europe and the Americas that are slacking 16:03:52 * Finished unity-lens template for Quickly, based on Singlet 16:04:25 didrocks is reviewing and giving me changes to make as we speak 16:04:35 * Blogged about adding Unity Quicklists to applications (15 submissions so far) 16:05:00 I had a *lot* of great community involvement around that, but I need to keep following up with them to make sure they all get to where they need to be 16:05:12 * Blogged about upstreaming Quicklist submissions 16:05:24 ^^ like that 16:05:40 * Worked with the ARB to finalize rules for getting Unity Lenses and Scopes into Software Center (first attempt using the new process this week) 16:06:06 we should hopefully start seeing a lot more lenses and scopes available in the software center now that this process has been agreed upon 16:06:20 davidcalle is starting it off by submitting his graphic design lens and scopes 16:06:24 :-) 16:06:33 * Recreated Mozilla SUMO instance for ubuntu-docs team testing 16:06:50 and fixed the apache+wsgi bug so that users can actually login now 16:07:00 (still need to configure it for sending email) 16:07:08 * Interviewed and blogged about Oregon team's jams 16:07:16 bkerensa is rocking the west-coast 16:07:24 * Interviewed and blogged about Florida team's jams 16:07:32 cjohnston is rocking the east-coast :) 16:07:42 * Blogged about adding Unity searchable keyworkds to applications 16:08:04 this was a specific request from the DX team, and I'm hoping to get as much excitement around it as we had around quicklists 16:08:14 * Worked with dpm on cleaning up and moving Unity documentation to developer.u.c 16:08:23 (much more cleanup to be done) 16:08:27 * dpm high-fives mhall119 16:08:32 * Fixed permissions issues on summit that were preventing people from voting on sponsorships 16:08:39 * mhall119 is done 16:08:42 mhall119, will we have to reject some of the quick list contributions for the 12.04 time-frame? there was a question about the current contributions in the sponsoring queue in a discussion on ubuntu-devel@ - should they be ignored for now? 16:08:50 how's sumo look? Is it awesome? 16:09:08 like, do you think it's going to be good for us? Or we still just evaluating? 16:09:21 dholbach: yes, Universe packages will not get these quicklist submissions for 12.04 16:09:25 jcastro, it looks like it *could* be good 16:09:32 offers a useful foundation 16:09:37 mhall119, so those merge proposals should be rejected? everything else can go in? 16:09:38 jcastro: it has a lot of potential 16:09:50 * jcastro nods 16:09:59 dholbach: I think that was the desktop team's position, yes 16:10:06 dholbach, we need a wider discussion re. translations and universe 16:10:17 mhall119, can you sync up dholbach and dpm on this and see if we can find a solution? 16:10:17 dholbach: we're getting updated specs for making quicklists anyway, so I'll go back to all the contributors with those changes too 16:10:18 jono: There is a typo on your latest blog entry ...'rythmnbox' should read 'rhythmbox' 16:10:25 thanks ahayzen 16:10:25 ok, I'll have a chat with seb128 again - I don't want sponsors to feel "there are submissions I should not look at" 16:10:29 jono: sure 16:10:33 mhall119, thanks 16:10:36 so the earlier we make a decision the better 16:10:40 jono: Anytime :) 16:10:44 :-) 16:10:51 alrighty 16:10:59 dholbach: how about you and I chat with him after the meeting 16:11:05 next up.... 16:11:11 sure 16:11:15 thanks mhall119 16:11:22 np 16:11:30 ...a man familiar with the art of rhythm...the rhythm of love...dholbach! 16:11:38 deadmou5! 16:11:42 lol 16:11:46 hahaha 16:11:51 jono, I don't hear that the first time 16:11:52 lol 16:11:54 anyway.... 16:12:00 - Dev initiatives: formed Fix It Friday team, planned the event, announced it, blogged about its success. 16:12:06 :-) 16:12:11 - Dev Advisory Team: more planning with huats, mailed a lot of contributors, followed up with a number of them. Working on a number of automated check-lists for the d-a-t. 16:12:23 - Uploads Data: some minor fixes. 16:12:33 - Dev News: got out another issue, interviewed bkerensa. 16:12:45 - Sponsoring: did my patch pilot shift. Helped integrate a change into Sponsoring Overview (http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/) to visualise age of submission - thanks Andrew Starr-Bochicchio and Benjamin Drung. Send reminders about patch piloting. Discussions about improving sponsoring. 16:12:57 man, everyone is interviewing bkerensa 16:12:57 - Dev Docs: some updates to Packaging Guide: finally use the same branding, couple of other fixes. Thanks Andrew Starr-Bochicchio and Alexander Fougner. 16:13:13 - UGJ: mailed the Egyptian team about their missing venue - sorted out and I was excited to learn they are having a Packaging Jam! 16:13:25 - GSoC: some discussion about the organisation. Application time-frame started yesterday - not sure how well things stand for us. 16:13:35 - Discussed backports process with dpm. 16:13:41 - Fixed checkbox-beta1 packaging with balloons. 16:13:47 Done. :) 16:14:15 dholbach: did you talk to the LC about making Fix It Friday a global event on loco.u.c? 16:14:40 mhall119, no, in the end I decided to not do it - it doesn't make too much sense - it's a virtual event in one place (IRC) 16:16:04 it still might give it more exposure and get loco-teams talking about it among themselves 16:16:25 loco.u.c supports virtual (online/irc) events at any rate 16:16:54 it's a possibility - I think'll about it 16:17:04 any further questions? 16:17:45 alrighty! 16:17:51 next up... 16:18:11 ...a man so cool he even looks cool in Metallica pajamas...believe it or not....jcastro! 16:18:16 ALRIGHT! 16:18:23 ## Jorge's Weekly Report 16:18:23 This report is best consumed with this [background music](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfAtqCTs39A): 16:18:39 whoops, drop the ): on that, sorry 16:18:48 ### Juju 16:18:48 - Kicked off the [juju charm school contest](http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2012/02/juju-charm-contest-help-bring-free-software-into-the-cloud/) We're giving away Amazon gift cards so tell a friend, or submit something awesome. 16:19:02 - 3 new incoming community charms in review, LodgeIt (a cool python pastebin) and Stack Mobile (run your own mobile interface for stackoverflow. Not anything other people would use, but the guy runs the service and wanted it managed, so woo woo.) The third charm is the Symfony PHP framework, not ready to review but the guy is working on it, good progress. 16:19:15 - A bunch of other server team charms being worked on, lots of James Page work on the Hadoop/HBase stack, this will be awesome in Precise. Little fixes around the charms due to mmim's work on automated testing. Soon broken charms will just make things blink so we know. Got Jenkins, the whole 9 yards. 16:19:27 - Some charm browser stuff with Kapil, graphs are ninja now, and he's upgrading it to bootstrap 2.0 so we can make it look more Ubuntuish. Talked about how we want to make it more social so people can disqus (pun!) directly on the charm pages and be able to share the charm browser pages with friends via social networks. 16:19:40 - Charm Store allegedly in time for Beta 1 in 2 days. Allegedly. :) 16:19:54 - juju Charm School Webinar, March 8th, already have 90(!) people signed up! 16:19:54 - Rehearsed with Petra today, slides @ design getting finalized. Webinars, serious business. 16:19:54 - Way more people than the IRC charm schools so far, perhaps use this venue more? 16:20:05 - Server Blog planning with Clint and MMims, but webinar/slides in the way, Mims on his way to Strata this week. 16:20:14 so not much progress on the blog 16:20:22 - Summit Charm should be done today, if Mims can't finish it (he's off the grid this minute) Clint will finish it up tonight, he made good progress yesterday. He's made it so the django charm will be reusable, fixing dpm's use case from the other day. 16:20:30 - Marketing team wants juju marketing materials to be a whitepaper, not a handout for events, Matt Barker sorting it, pinged Antonio for guidance. 16:20:30 - CharmSchool for the OpenStack Summit is now on. 5-8pm on the thursday, waiting on food/drinks quotes, from Cezz, but not much left for me to do there other than show up. :) 16:20:35 Any questions on juju? 16:20:38 [intermission] 16:21:26 ok, moving on 16:21:31 ### Other 16:21:37 - Global Jam Tasks (Server/juju/askubuntu) all on the wiki and ready to go. 16:21:37 - Blogged about the [awesomeness in Michigan](http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/02/23/how-ubuntu-michigan-runs-jams/). Thanks snap-l for the interview. 16:21:46 - Repinged other teams, got a bite in Mexico, but they seem to have made a separate event instead of adding onto the existing one. 16:21:56 - Forums upgraded to 3.x.pointsomething, this takes care of the security issue, IS looking at 4.x upgrade this week. <3 Forums Council and Technoviking for their support. Good progress being made. 16:21:56 - A bit behind on OpenWeek planning, but nothing major. 16:22:04 - As always you can watch my Trellos for what I am working on: 16:22:04 - [Random Community things](https://trello.com/board/community-team/4e6febfb247e35000000aab1) 16:22:04 - [Juju Stuff](https://trello.com/board/juju-growth/4ec1696da3f94bd2ea5b2b01) 16:22:04 - [OpenWeek](https://trello.com/board/classroom/4e94f7afaef5aa0000a5d2ea) 16:22:10 Any questions? 16:22:19 I was determined to not get flamed for being too short this week. :) 16:22:43 good work jcastro 16:22:52 jcastro: too short 16:22:59 hah 16:23:02 wait for DPM 16:23:11 he probably has a 35 minute multimedia presentation 16:23:15 hah 16:23:18 alright 16:23:19 lol 16:23:23 next up.... 16:23:33 a man defined by talent, quality, and conditioner....dpm! 16:23:43 :) 16:23:46 here we go! 16:23:54 App developers 16:23:54 -------------- 16:24:01 • Reviewed the documentation for Unity and related technologies that is relevant to app developers and needs to be moved to developer.ubuntu.com with mhall119 16:24:16 • Reviewed, tested on a live staging site and merged a fix for the developer.ubuntu.com theme http://pad.lv/942113 - thanks daker for the fix! 16:24:26 • Requested a deployment of the latest d.u.c theme to IS, with a bunch of bug fixes since the last roll out. 16:24:35 daker rocks 16:24:44 absolutely 16:25:01 • Started proofreading and editing a blog post on d.u.c on how to submit commercial apps to d.u.c 16:25:17 • Started writing a "Marketing your app in the Software Centre" guide on d.u.c 16:25:29 "guide" as in a blog post 16:25:42 • Set up the ubuntuappdeveloperportal-editors team to enable community participation in d.u.c content. David Callé started by drafting a Unity Lenses tutorial, and we'll publish it as soon as the Quickly lenses template hits universe 16:26:24 dpm, mhall119 thanks 16:26:41 * dpm waits for jono to come back, so he doesn't miss the rest of the activity and thinks he's slacking 16:26:50 good work daker 16:27:00 is the lens tutorial using Singlet + Quickly? 16:27:19 sorry, machine hung 16:27:53 mhall119, let me tell you in a minute, I had a quick glance at it last week but I can't remember - I would think it is if David said we should wait for the template to be packaged 16:28:03 ok 16:28:09 • Published PyGI AppIndicator API documentation on d.u.c, after noticing it wasn't being generated 16:28:17 if it is, it might need updates 16:28:46 ok, yeah, let me check at the end of the notes and I can be more detailed in the answer 16:28:53 • Researched, discussed and learnt more about backports from dholbach, thanks! ;-) 16:29:03 Translators 16:29:03 ----------- 16:29:10 • Started working on the Complete 12.04 Chinese Desktop project with kyleN: 16:29:22 ∘ Reviewed actions 16:29:28 ∘ Provided a first version of the schedule 16:29:35 ∘ Contacted the community reviewers and arranged call for this week 16:29:42 • Coordinated publishing the full language pack in preparation for Beta-1 16:29:51 • Provided feedback on a few User Interface Freeze exceptions affecting translations 16:30:04 • Discussed translations accomplishments with translators - added to this week's translations call agenda to come up with a good set and implement them https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TrophySuggestions 16:30:24 • Worked on a "20% time" project to port the existing translations stats - here's a demo for you http://176.34.113.223/stats/ 16:30:29 * dpm loves django 16:30:43 Loco teams 16:30:43 ---------- 16:30:54 • Ubuntu Global Jam Q+A videocast http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/20661432 - a new jam in Mumbai got signed up during the session :) 16:31:04 • Behind on blogging about the Slovenian and Catalan UGJ events, but about to catch up 16:31:12 Other 16:31:13 ----- 16:31:20 • Reviewed and assessed currently remaining work items and their priorities with Jono, agreed to postpone a few 16:31:31 • Talked with xdatap1 about localized ISOs and pointed him to the right places to find the information - the Italian team is going to generate a localized Italian derivative https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ItalianCD 16:31:47 Ok, these were the highlights. Any questions? 16:31:53 jcastro: he does have fancy bullets, doesn't he? 16:32:06 I know right 16:32:32 great report dpm :-) 16:32:41 ha :) 16:32:44 mhall119, http://developer.ubuntu.com/?p=1340&preview=true 16:32:49 deem bullets 16:32:55 alrighty! 16:33:02 thanks to tomboy 16:33:10 next up...a man defined by quality...balloons! 16:33:18 dpm: can't view it 16:33:28 you'll need to log in first 16:33:50 ,~-. 16:33:50 ( ' )-. ,~'`-. 16:33:50 ,~' ` ' ) ) _( _) ) 16:33:50 ( ( .--.===.--. ( ` ' ) 16:33:50 `.%%.;::|888.#`. `-'`~~=~' 16:33:50 /%%/::::|8888\##\ 16:33:52 |%%/:::::|88888\##| 16:33:54 |%%|:::::|88888|##|.,-. 16:33:56 \%%|:::::|88888|##/ )_ 16:33:58 \%\:::::|88888/#/ ( `' ) 16:34:00 \%\::::|8888/#/( , -'`-. 16:34:04 ,~-. `%\:::|888/#'( ( ') ) 16:34:06 ( ) )_ `\__|__/' `~-~=--~~=' 16:34:08 ( ` ') ) [VVVVV] 16:34:10 (_(_.~~~' \|_|/ 16:34:12 [XXX] 16:34:14 `"""' 16:34:16 :-) I win 16:34:17 oh snap, ascii art? How can we compete with that 16:34:18 Alrighty here 16:34:19 lulz 16:34:20 I have been working diligently on launching desktop application testing this cycle. Hopefully everyone saw the annoucement last evening about submitting testcases. The response has been amazing, I hope everyone can contibute by running the tests, help write them, or both :-) http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/02/opportunity-manual-application-testing.html 16:34:30 wow 16:34:41 * balloons has stunned and captivated his audience 16:34:55 "Spent all day developing ascii balloon for this meeting" better be one of his items 16:34:58 balloons, any tests submitted balloons? 16:35:12 jono, yes, my inbox has some new gedit tests in it 16:35:19 balloons, cool 16:35:26 turns out you can't submit merges to junk branches 16:35:36 I need to fix.. whoops! 16:35:47 balloons: didrocks asked me about trying to get community involvement writing autopilot tests for unity, can I get with you about that later today? 16:36:02 mhall119, yes you can 16:36:10 although I'm offically not here today 16:36:15 I'm writing tests :-) 16:36:18 indeed 16:36:20 maybe that's my other balloon 16:36:39 continuing... I have been working with the checkbox folks alot about how the tool can be revamped for better ease of use, and cleaned up and created some documentation surrounding the tool. These guys are excitied to see the increased usage of the tool, so if your interested in digging in here, get involved! The code lives on launchpad here: https://launchpad.net/checkbox 16:36:46 * mhall119 hums "99 red balloons" 16:37:10 Launched my first ppa and built my first deb with lp, both for the manual application testing -- thanks for helping dholbach! 16:37:39 I spoke briefly about the future of testing inside ubuntu -- using a standardized test case management system (we're still looking at case conductor), a standardized test delivery framework system (checkbox is getting looked at now :-) ), and a standardized metrics/feedback/reporting system. We're looking at possibly using ubuntu accomplishments, launchpad, the ubuntu wiki, or something else entirely for metrics -- it's pretty wide open. 16:37:39 If you've got ideas on this I would love to hear them. 16:38:31 not the wiki 16:38:34 I plan on having UDS sessions about how testing will happen in the Q cycle.. and I want to hit the ground running with in-place processes, tools, etc.. so it's important we do some prototyping if we can while we can this cycle 16:39:03 mhall119, everything is open as an option.. :-) I'm assuming we can find a better tool 16:39:32 Polished up a criticial packages list (did I mention this last time?) -- I'm going to be using the list to target which applications we want tests for; you'll notice the critical basic productivity apps are all being targeted for beta1 :-) Check out the list here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/CriticalPackages 16:40:15 I got interviewed by s-fox! Obligitaory linky: http://serial-coder.co.uk/blog/2012/02/an-interview-with-balloons/ If you care to know anymore about me, feel free to read it. 16:40:38 ? 16:40:39 doing the interview was fun, thanks for asking s-fox -- I hope someone found it useful ;-p 16:40:51 oh right, no worries. thank you 16:41:12 :-) 16:42:22 balloons: are your critical packages mostly for desktop, or are you also targetting server apps? 16:42:51 is that everything balloons? 16:42:57 Finally, the ubuntu qa landscape is still a bit difficult to follow, and I hope I'm helping to change that.. with that in mind I have been Working with Alvaro from U+1 subforums to help give a more offical status (and responsibilities) to those who are testing U+1 and running/reporting bugs on a day to day basis. I'm not sure what the ultimate form of this will take just yet, but I suspect we will talk more about structure in preparation 16:42:57 for the q cycle 16:43:27 mhall119, the server page still needs work.. I got some other folks to also have a look.. I will eventually get back to it.. the desktop page is complete 16:43:37 that's all folks! 16:43:39 balloons: is there a CLI verson of checkbox for servers? 16:43:43 thanks balloons 16:43:47 any questions, folks? 16:44:10 mhall119, indeed there is 16:45:26 alrighty 16:45:30 I will go next 16:45:52 * General 16:45:54 what, no intro? 16:46:01 lol 16:46:08 and here is jono: 16:46:10 :-) 16:46:12 the man who needs no introduction... 16:46:12 * Looking good - burndown is in shape. Postponed some work items to re-focus some parts of the cycle more effectively. 16:46:13 hehe ok :) 16:46:16 lol 16:46:19 * Developers 16:46:25 * Getting our sponsorship situation is shape. Reminded Engineering Managers to remind their teams. 16:46:29 * Discussed getting the DAB finalized. 16:46:34 * Better visualization of different developer on-ramp statuses in a Trello. Looking forward to moving forward with this. 16:46:38 * App Developers 16:46:45 * Getting the docs coordinated for our various app-dev facing Unity technologies. 16:46:50 * Produced a video overview of our technologies that will accompany this work. 16:46:57 * Brainstormed next steps for empowering app devs in Ubuntu. 16:47:01 * Continued work with OMG! over app reviews. 16:47:06 * QA: 16:47:12 * Working to get our Beta1 testing support finalized. 16:47:18 * Discussing pre-release testing requirements to prevent re-spins. 16:47:28 * Further planning of wider testing plans. 16:47:33 * Upstream: 16:47:39 * Coordinating the QuickList campaign with Mike. 16:47:58 * Got our stats in place and metrics for tracking further work. 16:48:05 * Defined scalable icons as a next target. 16:48:15 * Coordinated some inter-team workflow and optimizing upstream target work with upstreams. 16:48:26 * Juju: 16:48:32 * Putting in place new outreach goals. 16:48:47 * Defining charm school targets. 16:48:53 * LoCO Teams: 16:48:59 * Lots of Ubuntu Global Jam work - blogging, reaching out to teams etc. 16:49:03 * Organized my own Ubuntu Global Jam in Walnut Creek. :-) 16:49:09 * UDS: 16:49:15 * Finalized UDS sponsors list...you folks should be getting confirmations of whether you got sponsored or not soon, so hang fire! 16:49:19 * Discussing UDS plans for the Nov event. 16:49:30 * Coordinating team sprints. 16:49:36 * Starting to ratchet into place UDS logistical plans. 16:49:42 * Ubuntu Acomplishments: 16:49:49 * Adding a bunch of other accomplishments. 16:49:54 * Working with Duncan to get the accomplishments daemon ported to twistd so we can issue a proper release of the system. 16:49:58 * Other: 16:50:03 * Promotion and social media growth of Ubuntu on Android. 16:50:08 * Coordinating with the Comms team over the 12.04 release and LoCo initiatives. 16:50:13 * Produced a "How to file a bug report in Ubuntu video" - http://youtu.be/18nsScrDIa0 16:50:17 * Lots of testing and QA. Looks like my wirless bug is fixed, woo! 16:50:19 and that's me 16:50:22 any questions? 16:50:36 sweet news on the wireless fix! 16:51:01 jono: repete was wondering what, if any, community involvement we can do around Ubuntu on Android 16:51:23 oh cool to see Duncan around 16:51:43 mhall119, right now there is not much needed 16:51:50 jono, I guess I can replace my video with yours on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs then :) 16:51:52 balloons, yeah I am stoked it is fixed 16:52:00 dholbach, :-) 16:52:04 I'll do that later 16:52:15 cool! 16:53:48 alrighty 16:53:50 thanks everyone! 16:53:53 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)