#title #ubuntu-community-team Meeting Meeting started by jono at 16:00:53 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-02-07-16.00.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''LINK:'' http://juju.ubuntu.com/Events (jcastro, 16:17:59) Meeting ended at 16:58:57 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * jono (94) * jcastro (48) * mhall119 (41) * dpm (41) * dholbach (31) * balloons (23) * ubot2 (3) * meetingology (3) * technoviking (2) == Full Log == 16:00:53 #startmeeting 16:00:53 Meeting started Tue Feb 7 16:00:53 2012 UTC. The chair is jono. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:00:53 16:00:53 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:01:12 alright, welcome to the Canonical Community Team meeting! 16:01:31 dholbach, dpm, balloons, jcastro, mhall119 - I hope you are all ready :-) 16:01:39 I wonder what #unlurk does... 16:01:43 #unlurk 16:01:46 hm 16:01:49 I am! 16:01:50 sorry, could not resist :-P 16:01:53 is today G+ day or IRC day? 16:01:59 dholbach, devastating 16:02:03 jcastro, today is always IRC 16:02:04 #lurk 16:02:10 I am not sure why there is confusion :-) 16:02:12 excellent! I mean, uh oh! 16:02:12 Tue: IRC 16:02:13 #unlurk 16:02:14 Wed: G+ 16:02:15 :-) 16:02:16 ? 16:02:22 jono: at some point mhall got me all backwards 16:02:24 now I am worthless 16:02:28 classic mhall119 16:02:28 balloons, probably safe to ignore ;-) 16:02:36 ok, dholbach, want to kick off 16:02:37 ? 16:02:42 sure 16:02:59 it's been a while since I was in our last meeting, so here goes: 16:03:16 bah, I can't copy from tomboy 16:03:25 morning all 16:03:30 hey technoviking 16:03:36 • UDW: finalised schedule, wrote session descriptions, sent preparation notes to speakers, announced, held UDW, gave 2 sessions, summary blogging and general propaganda!$ 16:03:47 • Canonical: discussed with Olli how I could help the PS team with getting more involved in Ubuntu development. 16:03:54 • Dev News: got another two updates out together with bkerensa, moved next issue planning to trello, planned a call with new contributors to the team. 16:04:05 • Dev Advisory team: added lots of people to our trello, reached out to lots of almost-applicants. 16:04:24 • Dev data: investigated broken entries together with Laney. Wrote script to extract data from DB. 16:04:31 • ubuntu.com/developer: discussion of new content. 16:04:39 • Blueprints: reviewed outstanding actions with everyone. 16:04:52 • Dev docs: reviewed update of the look, some licensing issues need looking into, almost there. 16:05:13 • Harvest: uncovered two additional issues: bug 922569, 922570. Got them deployed, Harvest is now working again. Also got Fedora patches back in! 16:05:13 Launchpad bug 922569 in harvest "'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xf3' in position 86: ordinal not in range(128)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922569 16:05:14 Launchpad bug 922570 in harvest "psycopg2.ProgrammingError: can't adapt" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922570 16:05:21 • Graphs: talked with Michael Hall about Unity stats and merged a couple of changes of his. 16:05:32 ^ mhall119 took over. :) 16:05:34 • UGJ: simplified UGJ page. 16:05:40 whoops meeting sorry 16:05:41 • Sponsorship: piloted myself, announced Sponsorship Friday. 16:05:51 • ARB: talked with David about packaging problems regarding /opt requirement. 16:06:02 • Misc: mail catchup, upgraded my desktop to precise too, all nice and dandy. 16:06:17 Lots of other small stuff I didn't note down, as usual. :) 16:06:19 dholbach always pilots himself 16:06:22 :-) 16:06:28 /ignore jono 16:06:31 "oops" 16:06:34 lol 16:06:46 cool, any questions for dholbach? 16:06:53 \o/ 16:06:55 well done! 16:07:21 nice, dholbach :-) 16:07:29 dpm, ready to roll? 16:07:34 yes sir! 16:07:41 * jono high-fives dpm 16:08:01 * dpm ^5's too 16:08:13 So I still had some notes I wrote down for last meeting, which didn't happen, so I'll just post them to pretend I've done more work than I actually did this week... 16:08:29 Previous week: 16:08:37 - Published the new Software Centre banners for Oneiric - Oil Rush, Corebreach, And Yet It Moves 16:08:39 haha 16:08:55 ;-) 16:08:56 (oilrush looks so good.) 16:09:04 AYIM is fun 16:09:13 they're all awesome 16:09:17 - Wrote featured apps blog post on developer.ubuntu.com - http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/01/featured-ubuntu-software-centre-apps-for-january-2012/ 16:09:28 - Wrote a new section on developer.ubuntu.com on how to update existing apps - http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/updating-your-app/ 16:09:40 - Had a chat with TLE about creating a django webapp to allow translators to upload localized images for ubuntu docs. He already has got a working webapp, and he's waiting to host it somewhere. I set up a Canonistack server, but got stuck at using juju with a django charm 16:09:58 - Call with balloons to discuss creating a lightweight set of tests on the wiki for localized images 16:10:10 - Contacted Eidete devs to submit their apps in the Software Centre 16:10:18 - Had a chat with wendar on how to collaborate with upstream regarding the creation of GTK API docs 16:10:26 - Quick chat with dholbach to sort out the license of theme files on d.u.c 16:10:36 - Started digging out old translations interview posts on the Fridge to copy them to the translations portal 16:10:43 - Contacted a bunch of people to update the status or finish community work items 16:10:50 - Added links to the source code for all APIs on developer.ubuntu.com 16:11:01 - Call with knitsche about the Complete Simplified Chinese Desktop project - waiting for reply from managers about the plan as discussed at UDS 16:11:09 16:11:12 Last week 16:11:20 - Coordinated fix for bug 914667 (i.e. published apps remain as QA pending in the ARB queue) with mvo and achuni 16:11:21 Launchpad bug 914667 in developer-portal "Packages in the ARB process should go directly to Published without going to "Ready to Publish"" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/914667 16:11:30 - Created the ubuntu-app-review-contributors team for any members wanting to contribute to reviewing apps without being part of the board - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-app-review-contributors 16:12:02 Got one member already, if anyone else is interested to help reviewing apps, let me know! 16:12:12 - Created a report on the current status of the ARB queue https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/QueueReviewFeb2012Week1 16:12:35 - Spent some time off-work to learn about packaging to be more effective (or at least knowledgeable) in helping the ARB. Packaged the http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dpm/+junk/qml-memory-game/changes app from Naba Kumar with help from dholbach - thanks! 16:12:49 de nada 16:12:49 - Conversations with kyleN, mvo and gekker about the 'Complete Simplified Chinese Desktop translation' project. Answered questions, created a calendar with milestones and proposed schedule 16:12:54 :) 16:13:02 - UDW session on bringing your apps to Ubuntu. It was fun, had lots of questions, and I think for the first time ever I didn't have the time to finish the content due to the questions! 16:13:16 - Got reminded by an e-mail from the People & Culture department that soon it'll be my 3rd year at Canonical - time flies when you're having fun at work ;-) 16:13:22 woo! 16:13:26 :-) 16:13:27 jawesome! 16:13:38 and that's my update for today 16:15:27 questions anyone? 16:15:49 alrighty 16:15:54 any questions? 16:16:18 not from me 16:16:29 ok! 16:16:30 nor me 16:16:33 nor me, nice job! 16:16:36 jcastro, you are up 16:16:46 allright! 16:16:48 GOOD MOURNING! 16:16:55 mourning? 16:16:57 ok I will not be pastebinning this report 16:16:58 mourning what? 16:17:13 Alright, first up, juju events 16:17:59 http://juju.ubuntu.com/Events 16:18:12 we've coordinated all our submissions, CFPs, tshirts, charm school, etc. 16:18:27 I am currently looking for someone who might be interested in covering Europe 16:18:36 so if you're going to a European cloud event, let me know! 16:18:54 We're also planning our 2nd ever webinar on March 8th (details not solid yet, so it's unannounced) 16:19:02 this will be a more formal virtual charm school 16:19:04 with myself and Clint 16:19:24 new charms this week, Keystone (openstack) and the launchpad oops tool 16:19:33 just in case you want to run oops at home, now you can! 16:19:41 this week I will be concentrating on 2 things: 16:19:59 a) smoothing out charm review submissions (which shouldn't be hard, it's pretty lightweight) 16:20:12 and b) Generating slides and handouts and stuff for the Charm Schools themselves 16:20:23 Other things: 16:20:42 Linking up with IS and ISD with the forums council to make sure the forum upgrade process is rolling forward 16:20:49 the test server should hit 4.x this week! 16:21:18 awesome! 16:21:39 and that's the major ones, my day-to-day stuff is here: https://trello.com/board/juju-growth/4ec1696da3f94bd2ea5b2b01 and https://trello.com/board/community-team/4e6febfb247e35000000aab1 16:21:43 if you want the details 16:21:48 that's all I got, smoke if you got em 16:22:55 questions, folks? 16:22:58 jcastro: dpm: what's the state of juju for django? 16:23:06 not very good 16:23:13 well, let me rephrase, good, just not working 16:23:21 needs a review/bugfix/once over 16:23:29 is that because it's a framework, not an app, or does it just need some extra polish? 16:23:35 It'll be on my next hitlist. 16:23:41 mhall119, yeah, it needs work, and noodles will not be working on it anytime soon, so it needs to be adopted 16:23:59 yeah so he was working on it, then not, and it just needs to be brought up to speed and make sure it works, etc. 16:24:03 have you talked to stuartm about getting ISD to adopt it? 16:24:26 oooh, should I? 16:24:29 they're not in the cloud yet, but I know they were looking at improving their devops toolbox 16:24:45 ok, I'll take that item on then and ping him 16:25:09 cool 16:25:14 ok 16:25:21 balloons, you are up next :-) 16:26:25 balloons, ? 16:26:36 kk 16:27:17 here we go 16:27:36 helped place call for HUD testing 16:28:03 helped place a call for unity testing, resulting in good feedback and bug fixing for unity team 16:28:29 spoke with Tedg and pitti about testing from ubuntu-bug and ppa's, how to fix the issue with reporting bugs we noticed in the initial calls for testing 16:28:40 used those experiences and new knowledgebase to put together new workflow for testing, to be put to test very soon :-) 16:29:31 also spoke with tedg about internal workflows and discussed how projects do QA and use launchpad 16:29:58 put together ubuntu QA landscape document to document the different QA teams and began work and soliciting feedback on how QA is structured 16:30:11 follow-up with case conductor folks and prep for pilot release 16:30:22 plan new requirements for case conductor with Cam and gema 16:30:35 help with udw session planning -- we have several QA related sessions, including one from cprofitt on ubuntu "problem" lifecycle 16:30:52 I think that's it from me ;-) 16:31:06 alright 16:31:10 any questions for balloons? 16:31:33 nice work over there balloons 16:31:43 o/ 16:32:01 balloons: I couldn't get checkbox-unity to run under a guest session 16:32:05 is that a known issue? 16:32:11 ohh really? 16:32:21 it wanted sudo, but the guest account didn't have it 16:32:28 no it's recommended you run it under guest account actually 16:32:44 hmmm, I got the password dialog, and that's as far as I could go 16:33:27 balloons, what is the current status of the Case Conductor pilot? 16:35:44 balloons, helloooo! 16:35:45 :-) 16:35:51 i type slow 16:35:52 hehe 16:35:54 lol 16:36:00 current status is that we're ready to roll out the pilot, and want to test chamr this week.. 16:36:39 ok cool 16:36:41 case conductor is in sort of a beta like status I would call it. depending on what we find, we could actually have folks using the software 16:36:55 but we can definitely test the charm again and I want to do so 16:36:57 any ETA when we can get something for the community to play with? 16:37:15 stefano will look at charming it tonight, but a bunch of it has been waiting for it to actually work 16:37:24 ok cool 16:37:27 alright 16:37:31 (not as a dig to upstream but it's close) 16:37:35 sometime between now and March :-) if the charm looks good when we deploy again, possibly sooner 16:37:44 balloons, sweet 16:37:50 mhall119, you are up next 16:38:09 alright, I'm going to do as dpm did, and cover some things from our missed week 16:38:26 that's the spirit 16:38:43 :-) 16:38:46 - Created HUD documentation on the wiki the day it was announced 16:39:29 - Worked out details of a patch pilot program for DX with Tim. He wanted more info from our statistics, which led to... 16:39:52 - Create more merge proposal stats, borrowing heavily from udd-sponsorship-stats 16:39:56 and 16:40:33 - Taking over partial control of unity-stats from dholbach, moving it into an actual lp project (unity-stats), with an actual team (unity-stat-dev) 16:40:51 good work 16:40:57 and also inviting members of DX to be part of that team, so they can contribute to gathering unity stats 16:41:47 - Reached out to XBMC developers, per jcastro's discussions with them at SCaLE, to make sure they know we're not competing with them, and want to work with them as much as possible 16:42:13 - Created a formal report for SUMO as an option for help.ubuntu.com 16:42:34 balloons: ^^ You might be interested in that, since many of the mozilla technologies probably are the same in Case Conductor 16:43:12 - Created a set of recommendations around the creation of Unity lenses, to try and keep then content-centric and prevent the proliferation of per-source lenses 16:43:42 - Createde an outline for cleaning up unity.ubuntu.com/get-involved 16:44:10 - Got singlet upgraded to Unity 5, packaged and (almost) into Universe with kenvandine's help 16:45:31 - Contacted a Gnome intern who is working on GTG improvements, she had mentioned wanting to make a GTG unity lens in her blog, will be working with her to try and bring that about 16:46:11 - Held 2.5 sessions for UDW! \o/ 16:46:18 \o/ 16:46:47 - Created a list of the most popular apps to target for better Unity integration 16:46:51 * dholbach hugs mhall119 16:47:24 he's unstoppable 16:47:27 - Work with Will Cooke on the TV team, preparing for opening it up to more community involvement 16:48:16 - Discussed with the ARB about allowing separate packages for scopes and lenses to depend on eachother in the extras repo (escalated to the technical board now) 16:48:33 mhall119, ah, I was going to ask about that: I haven't followed the discussion of relaxing requirements for lenses in extras.u.c outside of what's been said on the ARB mailing list. Has there been any interesting reply from the TB? 16:48:45 dpm, not yet 16:48:49 not from the TB, no 16:49:05 no worries, thanks for the update 16:49:29 - Created a list of known Lenses/Scopes for Unity (nearly 60 of them!), and identifying which ones are ready for sending to the ARB (pending resolution of the package dependencies mentioned above) 16:50:24 - Brought up the lack of BAMF documentation with DX, bugs already exist to resolve it, but it's on someone's TODO list now 16:50:37 that's it for me, any questions? 16:51:16 hey so out of the 60 lenses 16:51:26 how many are you targetting to hit USC for 12.04? 16:51:40 (I am assuming they're not all complete) 16:52:15 16 are currently compatible with Unity 5 16:52:27 4 are already in USC for oneiric, so those should be easy 16:52:44 ok, I am going to go now as we need to wrap soon 16:52:48 and I have another call 16:52:53 the rest need packaging, david calle is going to work on a "template packaging branch" until we have something better in quickly 16:52:53 thanks mhall119! 16:53:00 * Burndown is looking great: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html 16:53:06 * App devs: 16:53:11 - Trying to free up web dev resources to focus on developer.ubuntu.com. Unlikely, so the site is being put into maintenance mode. 16:53:17 - Working with David and the ARB to refine the process. 16:53:22 - Coordinating with the Consumer Apps Team around how we can expedite apps through the review process, 16:53:27 * Upstreams: 16:53:34 - Working to get an exception to the extras dependency rule to unblock lenses and scopes going into the software center. 16:53:38 - Got the metrics put in place for tracking Unity community growth. 16:53:45 - Working with Michael around getting a new IA in place for unity.ubuntu.com. 16:53:53 - Working with Michael and the DX team to put a patch pilot scheme in place to get the merge proposals reviewed on a regular cadence. 16:54:03 - Defined key upstream targets for Unity integration and support. 16:54:08 * QA Strategy: 16:54:16 - Working with Nick to put together a refined QA community structure proposal. 16:54:23 - Creating a repeatable process for Nick to deliver testing around key components (e.g. Unity) and deliver a dashboard of testing results. 16:54:30 * Devs: 16:54:35 - Re-focusing a little more on dev growth and getting the sponsorship queue in place. 16:54:41 - Worked with Daniel to get the metrics in place. 16:54:45 * Juju: 16:54:51 - Coordinating around some expectations of growth. 16:54:56 - Coordinating Mark Shuttleworth keynotes for OSCON / Velocity. 16:55:04 * Ubuntu Global Jam: 16:55:10 - Organized a meeting to get the jam going rolling. 16:55:18 - Created and released a video for how to organize an event: http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/02/07/ubuntu-global-jam-call-for-events-2/ 16:55:22 - Created some mock-ups for the event page and a community dashboard on the weekend of the event - Michael is on these. 16:55:25 * Testing: 16:55:31 - Testing the HUD, Unity 5.x, Ubuntu One, and a frustrating Intel wireless bug. 16:55:39 * Worked on the Ubuntu Accomplishments Spec: 16:55:48 - A furious week of hacking - I spent all last weekend and every evening getting weird and obsessed about this project. 16:55:54 - I now have a fully working prototype. Just need to finish pulling some pieces together. 16:55:59 - I need people to help write some scripts to query Launchpad for accomplishments! Email me at jono@ubuntu.com if you can help! :-) 16:56:02 * UDS: 16:56:09 - Finalized sponsorship plans and announced it. 16:56:13 - Starting to review UDS plans and gathering stake-holder requirements. 16:56:16 * Working on a I Make Ubuntu design brief with the design team. 16:56:22 * Various Canonical community consultancy projects: OEM Team, Parternerships team. Helping the community to flow like a river. :-) 16:56:28 * Provided some community growth data for the Canonical Quarterly Business Review - things are looking good. 16:56:31 * Worked on some clarifications around Canonical not sponsoring Jonathan Riddell to work on Kubuntu anymore. 16:56:34 * Various other bits... 16:56:40 any final questions before I need to run? 16:56:51 not from me :) 16:57:04 jono, so you had to have points and subpoints in your notes... you showoff! 16:57:10 lol 16:57:14 re: the developer portal, is there anything that needs doing that the community can contribute to? 16:57:28 mhall119, yes, 16:57:33 mhall119, it might be a good idea for dpm to prepare a list of things the community could contribute to 16:57:41 cool 16:58:02 mhall119, we're going to be focusing on maintenance, so there are a bunch of web bugs someone with web dev experience could tackle 16:58:16 * mhall119 knows people with web dev experience ;) 16:58:23 happy to prepare a list of things the community can do 16:58:26 :-) 16:58:29 heh 16:58:43 ok folks, cool 16:58:48 I have to prep for my next call 16:58:54 thanks for the meeting! 16:58:57 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)