#title #ubuntu-community-team: Ubuntu Community Team

Meeting started by AlanBell at 16:11:21 UTC.  The full logs are
available at
http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2011/ubuntu-community-team.2011-11-22-16.11.log.html
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== Meeting summary ==

 *dholbach update

 *jcastro update
''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndreaGrandi   (AlanBell, 16:19:43)

 *dpm notes

 *jono roundtable
''LINK:'' http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/   (jono, 16:40:48)
''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule   (dholbach, 16:42:17)



Meeting ended at 17:05:05 UTC.



== Votes ==




== Action items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * jono (94)
 * dholbach (49)
 * jcastro (48)
 * dpm (43)
 * alourie (17)
 * cprofitt (7)
 * AlanBell (6)
 * meetingology (4)
 * mainerror (3)
 * snap-l (2)
 * doctormon (2)
 * ubot2 (1)
 * akgraner (1)



== Full Log ==


 16:11:21 <AlanBell> #startmeeting Ubuntu Community Team

 16:11:21 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 22 16:11:21 2011 UTC.  The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.

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 16:11:29 <AlanBell> #chair jcastro jono

 16:11:29 <meetingology> Current chairs: AlanBell jcastro jono

 16:11:32 <jcastro> ok do I need to do anything?

 16:11:42 <dpm> shall we let dholbach tell about his actions again, for the benefit of the logs?

 16:11:57 <AlanBell> #topic dholbach update

 16:11:59 <jono> sure

 16:12:03 <dholbach> • Pre-UDS: published accomplishment trophy ideas, interviewed people for Harvest ideas.

 16:12:03 <dholbach> • helped with the creation of Ubuntu IRC Community survey

 16:12:03 <dholbach> • set up ubuntudev google+ page

 16:12:03 <dholbach> • did job interview with mhall :)

 16:12:03 <dholbach> • CC: set up 'team catch-up' schedule for meetings, participated in CC meeting, LoCo Council election, bits and pieces here and there.

 16:12:05 <dholbach> • Dev Advisory Board: drafted reachout mails, started work on team organisation, had a quick call with Christophe about it.

 16:12:08 <dholbach> • Recognising Dev contributions: improved docs WRT thanking/recommending your peers, blogged about and on UCADay

 16:12:11 <dholbach> • Patch Pilot: piloted myself, created patch pilot schedule for Nov/Dec.

 16:12:13 <dholbach> • admin: filed expenses, booked Budapest flights, UDS Survey

 16:12:15 <dholbach> • blueprints: milestoned work items for precise, mailed work item assignees, dealt with a couple low-hanging fruit work-items

 16:12:18 <dholbach> • Asked for ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.u.c to be merged into ubuntu-motu@lists.u.c

 16:12:20 <dholbach> • Weekly dev updates: conversations with News team, figure out submission process, got 2 dev updates out the door, set up initial team and organisation.

 16:12:23 <dholbach> • Catch-up Call.

 16:12:25 <dholbach> ---

 16:12:27 <dholbach> and I have one agenda item

 16:13:57 <jcastro> are you posting your agenda item?

 16:13:59 <jcastro> or is it my turn?

 16:14:03 <jono> jcastro, shoot

 16:14:05 <jcastro> ok

 16:14:11 <jcastro> - Clean up blueprints, all done. Work can begin on WI syncage, that to be done this week.

 16:14:12 <AlanBell> #topic jcastro update

 16:14:18 <jcastro> the line adjusts on Friday btw.

 16:14:25 <jcastro> so get your mountain in order

 16:14:30 <jcastro> - Gave Nick access to cloud.ubuntu.com so we can start doc clean up

 16:14:30 <dholbach> ah, nice

 16:14:36 <jcastro> - Membership recommendation for Andrea

 16:14:41 <jcastro> - Attended Cloud Camp Silicon Valley

 16:14:46 <jcastro> cloud camp was fun

 16:14:51 <jcastro> but I am not sure how valuable they are

 16:15:03 <jcastro> in the future we'll probably concentrate more on charm schools at larger events

 16:15:07 <jcastro> yes, it's called charm school

 16:15:17 <jcastro> - Charm growth has started, working on 5 incoming people

 16:15:22 <jcastro> thinkupapp charm is nearly done

 16:15:24 <jcastro> this will be nice

 16:15:38 <jcastro> so everyone will be able to just snag their social data and have a copy on their own servers

 16:15:43 <jcastro> I suspect that might be popular. :)

 16:15:49 <jcastro> - james_w found a problem with my workflow today, his work was being ignored, fixing this today with a vengeance.

 16:16:01 <jcastro> basically we were ignoring the new-charm tag and only paying attention to the entire pile

 16:16:08 <jcastro> which in hindsight is stupid

 16:16:16 <jono> haha

 16:16:21 <jcastro> - Setting up a Charm School at SCaLE with Ilan and Clint. We've submitted a talk, want to do a lightning talk on devops day, and the charm school makes for a busy weekend.

 16:16:27 <jcastro> - Working on the creative brief for the design web team for cloud.ubuntu.com. (Kill me)

 16:16:34 <jcastro> - More details in my Trello boards for each area: (this is synced with my work items): http://goo.gl/n4or5 http://goo.gl/WXsY7 http://goo.gl/2y1IQ if you care about that.

 16:16:39 <jcastro> I have no agenda items

 16:16:43 <jcastro> \o/

 16:16:48 <dholbach> automatically synced?

 16:17:04 <dholbach> which Nick? :)

 16:17:31 <jcastro> no

 16:17:35 <jcastro> I sync manually with Nick

 16:17:42 <jcastro> nick is unscriptable, he has no API

 16:17:53 <dholbach> I'm not quite sure I understand

 16:18:01 <dholbach> you said "Gave Nick access to cloud.ubuntu.com so we can start doc clean up"

 16:18:06 <jcastro> oh right

 16:18:08 <jcastro> so at the sessions

 16:18:15 <dholbach> I was assuming that Nick was a person :)

 16:18:19 <jcastro> we sliced up chunks of the docs on cloud.ubuntu.com

 16:18:28 <jcastro> and each person is responsible for one section

 16:18:42 <jcastro> and it hasn't been touched in a while so he was keen to go in there and fix a bunch of stuff

 16:18:49 <dholbach> ah cool

 16:18:54 <dholbach> so that's Nick Barcet?

 16:18:58 <jcastro> yeah

 16:19:00 <dholbach> ok, got it

 16:19:17 <dpm> I do have a "name" question too

 16:19:26 <dpm> which Andrea on Membership recommendation for Andrea?

 16:19:36 <jcastro> Grandi

 16:19:40 <dpm> ok

 16:19:43 <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndreaGrandi

 16:19:46 <jcastro> unity 2d, Qt, various things

 16:19:53 <jono> :-)

 16:20:05 <jcastro> you know, the italian DX team

 16:20:12 <dpm> :)

 16:20:26 <dholbach> the DX branch of the mafia

 16:20:28 <jono> ok cool

 16:20:33 <jono> any questions for jcastro?

 16:20:57 <jono> the man, with the plan...dpm!

 16:20:59 <jono> <cheers>

 16:21:01 * AlanBell reminds jono that he can do #topic dpm update

 16:21:06 <dpm> ok, here I go

 16:21:09 <jono> #topic dpm notes

 16:21:09 <dpm> #topic dpm update

 16:21:28 <dpm> • Took 2 days off last week

 16:21:28 <jono> AlanBell, :-)

 16:21:38 <dpm> • Chat with dholbach on how to better mesage /the _app_ developer and _platform_ developer communities, and how to better explain platform development on d.u.c

 16:21:46 * dholbach hugs dpm

 16:21:51 <dpm> ;-)

 16:22:10 <jono> get a room

 16:22:11 <jono> lol

 16:22:12 <jono> :-)

 16:22:30 <dpm> • Created the G+ and Facebook Ubuntu App Developer pages (subscribe/like them! :)

 16:22:45 <dpm> * http://goo.gl/STx1G

 16:23:04 <dpm> * http://www.facebook.com/ubuntuappdev

 16:23:27 <dpm> • Worked on a list of app developer events to have Ubuntu presence on with jpugh

 16:24:11 <dpm> (not public atm, as it contains sponsorship info -ie Canonical sponsoring events-)

 16:24:31 <dpm> • Conversations with Simplified Chinese translators to clarify how uploads are done for the Complete Simplified Chinese Desktop goal

 16:24:59 <dpm> • Scheduled regular translation calls with translations leaders

 16:25:13 <dpm> • Finished off blueprint setup

 16:25:39 <dpm> And I think that was me for this week's relevant stuff

 16:26:25 <jono> thanks, dpm

 16:26:29 <jono> any questions for dpm?

 16:26:51 <dholbach> dpm, we should have a chat again about app vs. platform developer communities

 16:26:56 <dholbach> but no, no questions :)

 16:27:06 <jcastro> none here

 16:27:08 <jcastro> next victim!

 16:27:12 <cprofitt> may I ask?

 16:27:15 <jono> of course!

 16:27:21 <jono> this is a community meeting too :-)

 16:27:34 <cprofitt> when you say event sponsoring -- do you mean like UDS or do you mean other technical events?

 16:27:37 <dpm> dholbach, yeah, we still have to see what message we put exactly on d.u.c

 16:27:55 <dpm> cprofitt, good question

 16:28:18 <dpm> I mean Canonical being a gold/platinun/blahblah sponsor for a particular conference

 16:28:31 * cprofitt nods

 16:28:39 <dpm> which generally means contributing with some money to a conference

 16:28:52 <cprofitt> good to hear I have been looking for that for a long time. I will keep my eyes open for when the information becomes public

 16:29:04 <dpm> we don't want this info to be public while we're still considering which events to sponsor

 16:29:38 <jono> ok

 16:29:41 <cprofitt> is there a process to solicit community input on events? or what type of events?

 16:29:42 <jono> any more questions for dpm?

 16:29:46 <jono> there is one :-)

 16:29:49 <dpm> :)

 16:30:18 <dpm> cprofitt, the list we've been working on is specific to app-developer-related conferences

 16:30:43 * cprofitt nods

 16:30:55 <dpm> cprofitt, there is no formal process to solicit community input, but if you know of any conference on that topic, feel free to tell me :)

 16:31:03 <dpm> and I'll add it to the list

 16:31:22 <cprofitt> dpm - after the meeting lets talk about the app-developer stuff... I have an idea that may be of interest

 16:31:56 <dpm> cprofitt, excelent :)

 16:32:03 <dpm> excellent, that is

 16:32:12 <jono> cool

 16:32:17 <jono> ok, I will go next

 16:32:23 <jono> #topic jono roundtable

 16:32:30 <jono> * Not as much for me as I have taken a bunch of days off work since UDS to work on the book.

 16:32:43 <jono> * Reviewed my call schedule, adding a few regular calls after discussions at UDS.

 16:32:52 <jono> I need to trim this down though

 16:33:08 <jono> I worry I am going to grow a phone out the side of my head

 16:33:17 <jono> * Went to a few events: Cloud Expo and Community Managers meeting a PayPal.

 16:33:29 <jono> * Created G+ pages across our range of brands.

 16:33:39 <jono> Ubuntu, Canonical, Ubuntu Advantage, Launchpad etc...

 16:34:09 <jono> * Working with the team to finalize the 12.04 plan - everything is now in place - see http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/11/22/canonical-community-team-12-04-plans/ for more details

 16:34:58 <jono> * Gathered and released UDS proceedings - see http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2011/11/17/12-04-ubuntu-developer-summit-proceedings/ for details

 16:35:01 <doctormon> Ubuntu Advantage?

 16:35:15 <dholbach> doctormon, http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage

 16:35:25 <jono> doctormon, yeah, it is an enterprise service

 16:35:26 <jono> thanks dholbach

 16:35:53 <jono> * Finalized the role for Michael Hall and got the position filled. He starts in 2012. Woo mhall119!

 16:36:00 <dholbach> :-)

 16:36:05 <jono> * Bunch of job interviews for the QA position.

 16:36:16 <doctormon> Ah good, Ubuntu Enterprise. (I always thought the advantage to Ubuntu was always it's community ;-))

 16:36:28 <alourie> it is

 16:36:41 <jono> doctormon, well, it is, but an Enterprise doesn't care about community, they care about support

 16:37:03 <snap-l> They want a name for the throat to choke

 16:37:03 <jono> you know how some corpspeak is needed in that world :-)

 16:37:09 <jono> yup

 16:37:28 <alourie> and someone to blame

 16:37:32 <jono> * Reviewing UDS notes and following up people on actions.

 16:38:04 <jono> * Starting putting together and releasing a series of blog entries to summarize work and focus after UDS.

 16:38:21 <jono> * Working with ISD to get the Canonical blog service improved to encourage more staff to blog publicly.

 16:38:32 <jono> and finally...

 16:38:34 <jono> * Catching up with email.

 16:38:39 <jono> any questions for me?

 16:38:41 <mainerror> jono:  On the Ubuntu Advantage site, why do they have fancy orange Ubuntu brand logo on white background mugs and we don't?

 16:38:58 <alourie> jono: are you sure you took time off? ;-)

 16:39:15 <jono> mainerror, those mugs are in the Canonical office

 16:39:17 <jono> alourie, heh

 16:39:45 <jono> any questions for me?

 16:40:22 <mainerror> jono: What book are you writing?

 16:40:28 <snap-l> Jono: Average velocity of unladen swallows? :)

 16:40:37 <jono> mainerror, The Art of Community second edition

 16:40:44 <mainerror> Nice.

 16:40:48 <jono> http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/

 16:41:07 <jono> it is available in print and under a Creative Commons license too :-)

 16:41:18 <alourie> and it's an awesome book

 16:41:20 <jono> any more questions?

 16:41:22 <jono> thanks alourie!

 16:41:49 * alourie is in the middle of it right now

 16:41:52 <jono> ok, dholbach you have an agenda item?

 16:41:55 <dholbach> yes, I think we still need to pick dates for UDW, UGJ, UADW and UOW

 16:42:17 <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule

 16:42:46 <dholbach> for UDW I'd suggest the week of 2nd Feb (close to Feature Freeze and with some time for myself to pester people at the Rally)

 16:42:59 <jono> ok, let me load the cal

 16:43:18 <dholbach> for UGJ I'd suggest the weekend after 1st March (after Beta 1 release)

 16:43:39 <jono> lets go one at a time

 16:43:42 <jono> ok for UDW

 16:43:47 <jono> WB 13th Feb?

 16:44:05 <dholbach> I'm not sure I understand?

 16:44:16 <jono> let us review each event one at a time

 16:44:23 <dholbach> sure

 16:44:29 <jono> so the second week of Feb is week begging 13th Feb

 16:44:30 <dholbach> I just didn't understand "WB 13th Feb?"

 16:44:39 <jono> WB = Week Beginning

 16:44:40 <dholbach> ah sorry

 16:44:44 <jono> :-)

 16:44:56 <dholbach> no, I meant the week in which the 2nd of February falls

 16:45:04 <dholbach> so two weeks before Feature Freeze

 16:45:23 <dholbach> so still before we start the bug fixing phase, but not in the crazy week of FF itself

 16:45:23 <jono> the 2nd Feb is a Sun

 16:45:29 <jono> oh no

 16:45:30 <jono> I see

 16:46:13 <jono> dholbach, ok, I will add them to the Community Team cal

 16:46:19 <jono> can you add them to the Fridge Cal?

 16:46:37 <jono> UDW - 30th Jan - 3rd Feb

 16:46:45 <dholbach> I have to check again, but yeah

 16:46:48 <jono> cool

 16:47:09 <jono> UGJ - 2 - 4 Mar

 16:47:26 <dholbach> great

 16:47:40 <jono> dpm, when do you want to do UADW?

 16:48:11 <dpm> I'm thinking whether it'd be best doing it after Beta 2 or in between betas

 16:48:34 <jono> dpm, I think closer to release makes sense

 16:48:42 <jono> few app devs if any will use an Ubuntu Beta

 16:49:29 <dpm> then the next milestone is RC

 16:49:34 <alourie> is it necessary do it before the release?

 16:50:11 <dholbach> alourie, there's too much going on immediately after the release (usually UOW and UDS, etc.) - which I think is the reason why we always had it shortly before the release

 16:50:16 <dpm> alourie, we've got UDS preparation and UOW after the release

 16:50:33 <alourie> well

 16:50:40 <jono> dpm, let's do it the week before release

 16:50:47 <alourie> ok

 16:51:06 <dpm> jono, ok, 9-13 Apr, then

 16:51:25 <dpm> oh, wrong date, sorry

 16:52:02 <dpm> 16-20th April

 16:53:25 <jono> dpm, cool

 16:53:34 <jono> can you add that to the fridge cal?

 16:53:38 <dpm> sure

 16:53:41 <jono> thanks!

 16:53:56 <jcastro> hmm

 16:54:03 <jcastro> is it possible to subscribe to just a tag in launchpad?

 16:54:24 <jono> jcastro, not sure

 16:54:26 <dholbach> jcastro, I'm not sure, but bdmurray will know :)

 16:54:28 <jono> any more agenda items?

 16:54:34 <jono> we have 6m left

 16:54:36 <dholbach> UOW the week after the release?

 16:54:42 <jono> dholbach, yup

 16:54:50 <dpm> jcastro, I think it is now

 16:55:16 <dpm> there was a longstanding bug about it, and I seem to remember it was fixed some months ago

 16:55:37 <jono> ok, if no other agenda items, let's wrap it

 16:55:40 <jono> thanks everyone!

 16:55:41 <dholbach> ok, so that's Apr 30 - May 4

 16:55:43 <jcastro> \o/

 16:55:44 <dholbach> I'll add it

 16:55:47 <dpm> jcastro, bug 151129

 16:55:48 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 151129 in launchpad "Can't subscribe to a tag" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151129

 16:55:55 <dpm> cheers!

 16:55:59 <alourie> yea!

 16:56:03 <jcastro> ok so the events are on the calendar?

 16:56:04 <jono> dpm, give me a few mins, and then will call you

 16:56:09 <dpm> jono, cool

 16:56:17 <alourie> wow, this is refreshing to have you guys meeting in RT

 16:56:24 <jono> jcastro, yuo

 16:56:26 <jono> yup

 16:56:38 <alourie> it's much better this way

 16:56:42 <jcastro> akgraner: ^^

 16:56:52 <jcastro> ok, the dates were all we needed

 16:56:56 <jono> alourie,  :-)

 16:57:02 <jcastro> akgraner: holla at me this afternoon and we'll sort the weeks

 16:57:22 <alourie> jono: well, it's more transparent and allows other people to participate, so it's good :-)

 16:57:41 * alourie needs to keep quiet though

 16:58:59 <jono> alourie, :-)

 16:59:05 <jono> everyone is welcome to take part

 16:59:44 <alourie> jono: sure, but this way makes it easier

 16:59:52 <akgraner> jcastro, will do

 17:00:06 <jono> cool

 17:00:52 <jono> dpm, lets do skype

 17:00:57 <jono> my webcam is on the blink

 17:01:14 * alourie has to take care a child

 17:01:22 <alourie> thank you guys, you rock!

 17:01:45 <dpm> jono, my skype is not working. I cannot send sound. Mumble, or G+ without image?

 17:02:04 <jono> dpm, ok one sec

 17:02:22 <alourie> cheers

 17:04:18 <dholbach> jono, #endmeeting

 17:05:05 <jono> #endmeeting



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