05:07:49 <sagaci> #startmeeting translation jam
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05:10:47 <sagaci> #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-au/1463/detail/
05:12:48 <sagaci> you can participate by fixing the strings already in launchpad by searching strings... http://people.ubuntu.com/~jpickett/translations/en_AU-20120302.tar.gz or you can translate packages from universe that are listed here -- https://translations.launchpad.net/translations/+products-with-translations
05:13:22 <sagaci> note that these packages aren't all from universe in ubuntu but if you trawl through the lists and see a project you like or is in ubuntu universe, it would be nice to translate them too
05:14:23 <sagaci> a word substitution table can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation/WordSubstitution
05:19:28 <benonsoftware> sagaci: I have a question, .po files what where do I enter the translations?
05:20:18 <sagaci> are you adding new translations or fixing them
05:20:56 <benonsoftware> sagaci: Well its not Ubuntu related but it would be new translations
05:22:09 <sagaci> usually .po files have a msgid and a msgstr
05:22:18 <sagaci> you put your translation into the msgstr field
05:22:31 <benonsoftware> Ok, thanks
05:23:19 <sagaci> but if it's a project translatable on launchpad, I'd be inclined to just use the web interface
05:23:37 <benonsoftware> Yes, I always do that
05:29:49 <sagaci> first package and it has a bug -- https://translations.launchpad.net/drapes/trunk/+pots/drapes/en_AU/4/+translate
05:34:43 <sagaci> should have had a bug jam after this
06:16:57 <head_victim> sagaci: so with the file on your people.u.c site, if I extract it what you're proposing is something like "grep /path/to/extracted/files *common misspelling*"
06:17:10 <head_victim> And then do you head back to launchpad to update the string?
06:17:32 <jaddi27> sagaci: I am here now
06:19:42 <jaddi27> switching to ubuntu - back soon
06:23:35 <sagaci> head_victim, cd ~/pathtopo/*; grep -i "centre" ./* > centre
06:23:51 <sagaci> head_victim, then grep -i "msgstr" centre >> result
06:23:54 <sagaci> less result
06:24:00 <sagaci> obviously search for center
06:24:15 <head_victim> Ok, I did a search for trash even and found a fair few results
06:24:17 <sagaci> seaching for alog will get dialog, analog, etc
06:24:29 <sagaci> wastebin/basket
06:24:49 <sagaci> just look down the word substitution list and pick out common strings
06:24:53 <sagaci> brb
06:24:59 <head_victim> Ok thats because they're all showing up in the msgid
06:25:03 <jaddi27> sagaci, What would you like me to look at (when you are ready)
06:25:06 <head_victim> Starting to make sense :)
06:25:49 <head_victim> jaddi27: http://paste.ubuntu.com/866256/
06:26:00 <head_victim> Give you an idea of the plan of attack
06:27:12 <jaddi27> Ok. Are certain people doing certain strings via grep?
06:27:26 <head_victim> Not that I'm aware of, feel free to suggest them as you do them
06:27:53 <jaddi27> Ok
06:32:31 <sagaci> head_victim, yeah then you do that list and search for msgstr
06:32:32 <sagaci> I've done a few a while back but it would be wise to start a table/list
06:33:06 <sagaci> if you're working on a big screen it's also a good idea to open batch=300's of the templates so you can easily find/fix them in lp
06:39:45 <head_victim> Ok, I coupled 2 greps together to give me a reasonable output "grep 'string' /path/to/extracted/dir/* | grep 'msgstr'"
06:41:07 <head_victim> Is it worth adding a column to the wordsub table for "date checked" and "who by" ?
06:41:15 <head_victim> Instead of creating a whole other list of checked ones?
06:52:04 <jaddi27> head_victim, I think that could be useful
06:52:12 <jaddi27> where is that table again?
06:55:18 <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnglishTranslation/WordSubstitution
06:55:26 <head_victim> Didn't we set up an enau one though?
06:55:41 <jaddi27> Yes, we did somewhere. I will have a look for it
06:56:20 <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/Translation/WordSubstitution
06:56:47 <jaddi27> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/Translation/TranslationChecklist
06:58:08 <sagaci> obviously strings like ize will get false positives like size but it's not too big of a deal
06:58:32 <sagaci> I've done strings like colour, dialog and honour
07:28:35 <head_victim> I've done a fair few now and not finding any in the files, awesome stuff :)
07:45:33 <benonsoftware> So with the confusion what time is the Materials Jam on?
07:46:05 <sagaci> 9pm nsw
07:46:36 <benonsoftware> Well I might have to skip it, however I will certainly read the logs
07:47:39 <sagaci> ok then I'll be working towards making a release poster for the sydney event
07:48:01 <benonsoftware> Ok
07:49:46 <benonsoftware> btw is it me or is the website down?
07:52:12 <head_victim> Crap, it is again.
07:53:29 <head_victim> I'm going to file an RT as this is a bit ongoing.
07:53:40 <head_victim> And they still haven't pointed .com.au to it either
07:54:38 <sagaci> march and still website issues?
07:55:29 <head_victim> Well the actual website isn't an issue, the hosting appears to have changed in stability from the previous install.
08:20:51 <head_victim> bradm: I do recall you asking to be pinged if we saw more issues with the website.
08:21:25 <head_victim> Not sure if that's still the case but we're getting "Fatal error: Call to undefined function drupal_init_path() in /srv/drupal-locoteams/www6/includes/bootstrap.inc on line 1212" appearing multiple times lately for bits and pieces here and there
08:37:39 <benonsoftware> Isn't the meeting still going? :D
09:00:49 <bradm> head_victim: might be worth throwing that into a RT
09:20:14 <head_victim> bradm: no worries. Not sure why but it's happened multiple times now. Sometimes I have to bug people to get it fixed other times it fixes without my intervention
09:23:37 <head_victim> I'm going to start a new one, the original website upgrade has actually been done I guess.
09:33:25 <benonsoftware> sagaci: Did you end the bot?
09:33:35 <sagaci> nope
09:33:49 <sagaci> #vote end meeting?
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09:33:52 <sagaci> +1
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09:33:56 <meetingology> Motion carried
09:33:59 <sagaci> #endmeeting