== Meeting information == * #lubuntu-devel: Lubuntu Team Meeting 14 September 2016, 14 Sep at 19:00 — 19:41 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/lubuntu-devel/2016/lubuntu-devel.2016-09-14-19.00.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Show of hands to gauge attendance === The discussion about "Show of hands to gauge attendance" started at 19:01. === QA === The discussion about "QA" started at 19:02. * ''ACTION:'' wxl will make sure an announcement to the mailing list happens regarding final beta testing upcoming next week === donations === The discussion about "donations" started at 19:08. === wiki === The discussion about "wiki" started at 19:13. * ''ACTION:'' wxl to look at stats on wiki contributors, in hopes of maybe finding a good team lead? * ''ACTION:'' wxl to reach out to other documentation teams to perhaps find a lead === LXQt === The discussion about "LXQt" started at 19:21. * ''ACTION:'' tsimonq2 make a bug report for the debian lxqt metapackages and email the lubuntu-devel list about the situation * ''ACTION:'' tsimonq2 update the LXQt wiki page with more information about the lxqt metapackages * ''IDEA:'' once lxqt metapackages are fixed, check if we can get the runner working in default settings (wxl, 19:30) === anything else === The discussion about "anything else" started at 19:31. * ''ACTION:'' tsimonq2 to update the mailing list on the status of getting mkusb in debian == Vote results == == Action items, by person == * wxl * wxl will make sure an announcement to the mailing list happens regarding final beta testing upcoming next week * wxl to look at stats on wiki contributors, in hopes of maybe finding a good team lead? * wxl to reach out to other documentation teams to perhaps find a lead * **UNASSIGNED** * tsimonq2 make a bug report for the debian lxqt metapackages and email the lubuntu-devel list about the situation * tsimonq2 update the LXQt wiki page with more information about the lxqt metapackages * tsimonq2 to update the mailing list on the status of getting mkusb in debian == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * wxl (103) * sudodus (25) * lynorian (9) * meetingology (9) == Full Log == 19:00 #startmeeting Lubuntu Team Meeting 14 September 2016 19:00 Meeting started Wed Sep 14 19:00:10 2016 UTC. The chair is wxl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 19:00 19:00 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 19:00 welcome to our regular Lubuntu meeting 19:00 agenda is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda 19:00 first thing's first— 19:01 #topic Show of hands to gauge attendance 19:01 o/ 19:01 o/ 19:01 yay there's two of us XD 19:01 i'll keep the ball rolling here 19:02 #topic QA 19:02 final beta is due 22 sept 19:02 that said, we should expect to see images early next week 19:02 So we should announce via the mailing lists, that people should get started with the daily iso files 19:03 no big fires to put out, but that would be wise 19:03 #action wxl will make sure an announcement to the mailing list happens regarding final beta testing upcoming next week 19:03 * meetingology wxl will make sure an announcement to the mailing list happens regarding final beta testing upcoming next week 19:04 Hi lynorian 19:04 I am a little late 19:04 we had images not sync earlier 19:04 that was kind of weird. hadn't run into that before 19:04 if you see anything weird with dailies not being built with today's date, please let me know 19:05 thx to lynorian for pointing that out to me btw 19:05 I will have time tomorrow (CET) to check the daily iso files. 19:05 we start building at 16:29 UTC btw 19:06 alternates are expected to take 45-50 minutes and desktop about double that 19:06 you can check here for the status of the builds https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/yakkety/lubuntu 19:06 that doesn't tell you the status of the sync, though 19:07 have to dig into the logs for that http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/ 19:07 that's just in case you want to know (it's also in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing) 19:07 tl;dr tell me and i'll work with release team to get it fixed 19:07 that's about all i have for QA. any other questions, comments, concerns? 19:08 not yet ;-) 19:08 ok 19:08 in that case 19:08 #topic donations 19:08 thanks for those links wxl 19:08 np lynorian :) 19:08 so, i've been trying to explore the option of having a Lubuntu Foundation, much like LXDE 19:09 i contacted the Software Freedom Law Center on the subject and haven't heard back. apparently they're a little slow on the uptake, so i think we need to just be patient 19:09 unfortunately, i'm no expert where it comes to such legalities, so i'm going to continue to keep trying that direction 19:10 however, if anyone knows of anyone that would be willing to help provide advice, maybe a reputable lawyer that understands how this world work across global borders, let me know 19:10 until then, i don't see any clear solution for donations 19:10 wxl +1 19:11 at the same time, i don't necessarily see an urgent requirement for taking them in 19:11 that said, i think we'll just keep on keeping on 19:11 Well, I cannot contribute much, I suggest that you continue with the Software Freedom Law Center 19:11 glad to hear that great minds think alike XD 19:12 moving on, i'm going to skip yakkety as all the discussion i have on the subject was in the qa section 19:12 i'm also going to skip tsimonq2's agenda items because he got a little confused by the mathematics of time zone conversions ;) 19:13 needless to say, he's not going to be here 19:13 he did say he would email out what information he has 19:13 he also might suggest different days/times for meetings so he can actually make it 19:13 so nexxt 19:13 #topic wiki 19:13 no new news on the wiki. still looking for someone to play lead. 19:14 please spread the word if you know anyone interested 19:14 i think ideally we need someone who can coordinate a vision for the whole thing, in terms of organization and editing 19:15 i don't think that person necessarily needs to contribute actual content, but of course that would be an additional plus 19:15 There have been a few people contributing. Any chance some of them can be re-activated? 19:15 you mean bringing some of the old leaders in, sudodus ? 19:16 Not necessary leaders, but contributors, that might grow into leaders 19:16 sure yeah that would be good 19:16 Gustavo da Silva for example 19:16 oh i know 19:16 he was awesome 19:16 yes he was I think he ran out of free time 19:16 unfortunately he's been completely out of touch as lately. life stuff. it happens 19:16 or something 19:17 that's a good idea though 19:17 maybe i can get some stats on contributors 19:17 #action wxl to look at stats on wiki contributors, in hopes of maybe finding a good team lead? 19:17 * meetingology wxl to look at stats on wiki contributors, in hopes of maybe finding a good team lead? 19:18 another idea i had, but i'm not sure about it, is perhaps seeking out other documentation teams and seeing if they might have some interest 19:18 i think someone with a good vision could make simple tasks that anyone could just chip away at 19:18 plus we have Google Code-In coming up again and that would be a great opportunity to get those tasks taken care of 19:19 anyone interested in reaching out to the various documentation teams and see if we can dig someone up? 19:20 I will focus on testing ... 19:20 k well i'll give it a go 19:20 ... and improving mkusb 19:20 #action wxl to reach out to other documentation teams to perhaps find a lead 19:20 * meetingology wxl to reach out to other documentation teams to perhaps find a lead 19:21 ok so now we move onto the fun stuff 19:21 #topic LXQt 19:21 i've seen an increasing number of people in irc asking about when it's coming out 19:21 right now there's problems in the metapackages upstream in debian 19:21 we cannot even suggest people install the lxqt or lxqt-core packages right now 19:22 what are these current problems? 19:22 I'm not updated on LXQt. How far away is it? 19:22 meanwhile, things are also broken that we can't create an image 19:22 so we're in a bit of a limbo 19:23 Would it work to install packages into a mini system made from the mini.iso? 19:23 lynorian: i only know this as hearsay from tsimonq2. apparently, there's some disagreement in debian related to taskel. i'm not sure i understand it. tsimonq2 said he'd write a bug on this subject 19:23 suffice it to say, it's a pretty fundamental thing 19:23 not necessarily a "lubuntu" problem, so, no, sudodus, it's broken everywhere 19:24 subsequently, because of this the "lubuntu-qt-desktop" suggestion on the wiki page is kind of broken, too 19:24 OK 19:24 I have it iunstalled and somewhat working but the lubuntu session has really bad theming and defualt settings like the runner is not work 19:24 lynorian: from the original wiki page? 19:25 that original wiki page was at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw/Lubuntu/LXQt which caused confusion for at least one user, so i deleted that 19:25 that original methodology probably does work (untested), but like you said, it's pretty screwed up 19:26 when the debian lxqt metapackages are fixed, then we can probably revise the wiki to allow for that option 19:27 and then if all goes well, (perhaps by the new lxqt release) maybe we'll have an lubuntu-next image built by canonical's servers that people can download and test the developing version of lubuntu with lxqt, including qt apps 19:27 suffice it to say, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LXQt is the number one source of info 19:27 i did have a little talk with tsimonq2 on this subject so i'm going to make him some reminders here: 19:28 #action tsimonq2 make a bug report for the debian lxqt metapackages and email the lubuntu-devel list about the situation 19:28 * meetingology tsimonq2 make a bug report for the debian lxqt metapackages and email the lubuntu-devel list about the situation 19:28 #action tsimonq2 update the LXQt wiki page with more information about the lxqt metapackages 19:28 * meetingology tsimonq2 update the LXQt wiki page with more information about the lxqt metapackages 19:28 any other comments or concerns about lxqt? 19:28 Getting the runner workin gin default settings 19:29 lynorian: should we ask question again once we at least get an lxqt metapackage? 19:30 yes 19:30 ok so why don't we do this 19:30 OK 19:30 #idea once lxqt metapackages are fixed, check if we can get the runner working in default settings 19:31 that's supposed to be a meetingology command 19:31 i guess we'll have to see what happens :/ 19:31 #topic anything else 19:31 any thing else on anyone else's mind? 19:32 Simon was starting to get mkusb into a debian repository. Do you know anything about his progress? 19:32 unfortunately no 19:32 soo 19:33 I'll ask directly via mail 19:33 #action tsimonq2 to update the mailing list on the status of getting mkusb in debian 19:33 * meetingology tsimonq2 to update the mailing list on the status of getting mkusb in debian 19:33 anything new with mkusb, sudodus ? 19:33 Yes, there are a few new features: 19:34 1. separated the usb-pack-efi (by Andre Rodovalho) 19:35 2. Made it fix the problem, that some flavours (not Lubuntu) update unattended and fill the casper-rw partition 19:36 3. Made it see card readers mounting as mmcblk0 19:36 #3 is still is early testing stage 19:36 nice 19:37 hoepfully we can get it in debian already! 19:39 Yes - that would make it easier to install and use (and rely on). 19:39 and i would suspect encourage other flavors to use it 19:39 especially consindering how consistent and reliable it is 19:40 good work as always, sudodus 19:40 with that, i'm going to move to close if everyone else agrees 19:40 Thanks :-) 19:41 Ok for me to close the meeting 19:41 alrighty then 19:41 thanks everyone for showing up! 19:41 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)